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hello

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behind you this is my present line how

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did you get through everywhere there is

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nothing behind me telling you please you

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must look behind him

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yummy there are no monsters in the

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the loud speaker spoke up and said

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spoke up instead

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I'm Clyde Lewis and this is ground zero

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Ground Zero is always coming to you live

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from FM news 101 kxl in Portland Oregon

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and we're heard around the world thanks

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to kxl calm and also Ground Zero

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we do have a chat room as well you can

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go and click on the left-hand column

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where it says chat come on in and hang

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out with us and talk with people who are

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discussing the show there are skeptics

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believers all kinds of people in that

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chat room they discuss what is being

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said it's a behind-the-scenes chat and

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you'd be involved with by going to

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ground zero media org see what people

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are thinking with what they're saying

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about the show the guests you name it

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it's kind of a behind the scenes thing

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and we do that well you're the only talk

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show that I know of that has the kind of

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national appeal that has a chat room and

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we like to see what people have to say

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about what we're talking about and

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monitor as well tonight we have a

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special show and what's what's odd about

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this show is that there was a person

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named Sarah who was on my facebook you

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facebook.com slash ground zero radio and

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she posted a story that she found called

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men with black hats or it was something

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that in fact a black hat man and it was

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called the black hat man and she told me

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she said didn't you encounter a black

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hat man a while ago and you just didn't

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elaborate and I thought yeah that's true

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I did and that was back on February 1st

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it was February 1st

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I was out paying bills running errands I

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had to have a meeting with the people of

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actually on that day was I was having a

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meeting with them talked about the show

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we were planning and I was out near my

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old neighborhood there was a bar out

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there called Sookie's it's right there

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near the freeway and it's right there

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near the 12 bus goes by there and in the

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southwest neighborhood and I looked

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across the street and I saw this tall he

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was about 6 foot 2 maybe pedal he looked

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like he was tall standing there

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well-dressed he was wearing a black hat

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black overcoat wore white shirt and a

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black tie and he had no eyebrows at his

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dead looking expression on his face and

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he also appeared to have no hair and

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the collar near the collar he was

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working on black hats I mean he could

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have hair on top of his head but he just

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looked like he was pretty clean he had

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much like and it might be a man in black

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that I have I myself a cell phone I this

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camera and I tried to position to get a

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picture of him I kept going and snap the

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picture and I looked at my cell phone

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him but I'm gonna find out who this guy

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him with a camera I wasn't about to

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bother him or anything so you know cuz I

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had to get to an appointment but I lost

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the guy I think he jumped into Sookie's

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or he may have walked into the hotel or

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something I don't know if he disappeared

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into thin air but was almost as if he

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did and so I went with my appointment

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office and I told the person at my

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interview what had happened I said I I

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saw this man in black standing on the

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street and and she was saying to me

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because I was meeting with Jean lighter

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and and his assistant and the

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representative for Legal Shield and she

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said to me that it sound like I was

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watching too much fringe because Jean of

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course is a fringe affection Otto and so

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am I and we were talking about the

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observers and I said they were kind of

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like looked kind of like one of those

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observer guys on fringe and I kind of

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giggled in the grade and then we saw

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three other men in black come into the

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Starbucks and she kind of looked over

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and I kind of looked over and thought

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whoa this is kind of weird

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imagining it those guys are wearing

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black coats and they're standing here at

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the Starbucks and they just are standing

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there and she said well they're probably

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Mormons and I laughed I said yeah

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probably they're Mormons they these guys

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had hair by the way they didn't have you

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have any weird looks like this guy that

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was over by Sookie's and so I wrote

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about the encounter first of all in an

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article called signposts you can get on

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my website of good grounds for immediate

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org and you know for me the paranormal

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the strange I attract it and so when I

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track stuff like that I just kind of

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a Sarah the woman who actually posted on

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my Facebook about black hat man this

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tall lanky guy with a big black brimmed

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hat um she told me she said if you read

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this column that was just posted you see

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this carbon was posted it says that if

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you see one you might as well you know

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it's a it's a bad omen to see a man in

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black and I thought to myself okay well

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I've seen him before I've even

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interviewed one last time I had a bad

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encounter with mana black my car was

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bombed but she brought up something I

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didn't even think about anything platoon

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do together because you know people tend

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to think that I think about this stuff

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and I don't like to think overtly

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paranoid but after I saw that man in

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black and after I talked with the people

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at LegalShield and after I had my

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appointment I came in to do the show and

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it was a show that was gonna be doing it

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will actually did with H Michael Sweeney

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lethal weapons that night psionic

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weapons weapons that they used to you

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know it's called the act acts Active

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Denial weapons where they caused you to

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collapse or they caused you to you know

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feel like your skin's on fire they

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caused all kinds of things to to go

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wrong and Dave I want you to come on for

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a minute this so that we can have

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confirmation here mm-hmm what happened

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that night when I was talking with H

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but but put it bluntly it was just a

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really strange night because it just got

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weirder and weirder you know and and the

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caller's weren't necessarily weird weird

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the Lord was lit up like a Christmas

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tree a lot of callers and whatever else

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but then I I at 10 o'clock I go in the

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other room start writing stories for the

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news in the newsroom and I was doing

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that and then I forget how much time

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went by half an hour or more and then

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all of a sudden it's you we hear you

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saying call me an ambulance yeah and

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we're just like did he just say that

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yeah and it was you were dead serious

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and I was collapsed I was glad you went

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yeah I I couldn't I couldn't continue

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the show oh never happens not we can't

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say never anymore but it was just just

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very peculiar like yeah and here's

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something I want to tell you and I've

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told this many people and there are

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people who can back me up on this people

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who I've worked with in the past I have

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done radio shows I have presented radio

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programs on the air and not even not

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even demonstrating it but I have done

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shows with two things bad two things

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I've done shows with backaches back

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problems all kinds of things you know

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I've got a backache or a toothache I've

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done shows where I'm throwing up I have

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to run in the bathroom and run back and

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go back and forth like that and people

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do that radio you don't know that the

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kind of scenes sometimes I mean we have

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to come on the air we can't miss days so

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some days we come on the air and we

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could be horf anof the air and you don't

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even know it we could be tossing a gun

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oh you're gonna hear us out that

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wonderful smile of Clyde Lewis talking

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about the extra-terrestrial right

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exactly and you know and I've even you

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know this I even did a show one night at

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ko TK when the studios at ke o TK were

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on fire but yeah you man the ship yes

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I kept it going we had the dumpsters on

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fire underneath

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the building I smelled smoke that the

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alarms are going off and I was doing my

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show and in fact one of my friends had

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to call the fire department and tell him

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the guy on the air is a [\h__\h] because

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he's not gonna leave the studio and it's

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true I was doing the show in the middle

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of a fire okay so to have an ambulance

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called while I'm doing a show with a guy

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who is called give us the professional

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paranoid telling me about non-lethal

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weapons or less than lethal weapons that

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can apprehend you or shut you down or or

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have you collapsed literally and then I

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collapse because I'm in pain makes me

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wonder and so it was brought up today to

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me about it the paramedics showed up now

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the strange thing about this whole

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affair was now I've had I've had health

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problems in the past it's no secret but

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the situation was is that my blood

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pressure was sky-high when the

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paramedics got here yeah you shared the

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numbers with me we don't have to go

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there it was you you were walking dead

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yeah I was I was guy he was ready for

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stroke but people who don't do radio

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need to understand you were there and I

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just want to interject this the show

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must go on

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you do yeah you were rendered academic

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that yeah I was done and I was gone and

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so I ended up getting transported by

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ambulance to Hsu the doctor said I was

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stabilized and fine I went home and then

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I'm still curious as to what happened

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that day and and I'm kind of you know

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now wondering because of all the strange

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stuff going down to the beach that we

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went down to the beach we did our thing

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there we were told that there was some

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strange stuff going on there and yes I'm

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getting I'm getting emails from people

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saying oh it's a hoax no it's not a hoax

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the story may not be true that you're

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reading but it did happen down there and

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we did have authorities telling us that

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you know we had authorities telling us

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about what may have been blown up out

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there we've had all kinds of strange

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stories we're still trying to make heads

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or tails of this whole thing

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but I want to tell you what I do here

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and when people you know say things like

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I think this is all phony or this is all

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crazy

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look I don't intentionally or try to

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create a hoax of this program what I do

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is real I get in there I roll my arms up

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and I get into the middle of it and I

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try to figure out if it's real or not

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and I experience these things I will

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tell you if I'm pulling your leg or not

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I will then stop everything and say by

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the way I'm pulling your leg no this is

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real it's reality and so I had to talk

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about this tonight because it's been on

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my mind for a while from the February

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first show the signposts article now the

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exploration into the beaches the boxes

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all this craziness and now the men in

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black I want to talk about the mi B's

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tonight and I'm going to do that also if

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you if any of you it was it was actually

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the day before that UFO was seen over

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Oregon where that that contrail made

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that 90-degree turn and everybody called

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through the FAA for the Municipal

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Airport saying we didn't know what that

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was Clyde it may have been a rocket or

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maybe been something else it all

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happened in sequence and then the Box

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story and everything else you gotta try

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to piece together what is real and what

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isn't real and I'll tell you it this is

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very real for those who are reporting it

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and for those that are involved we'll be

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talking about the men in black tonight a

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little bit and asking for your calls and

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your experiences at five oh three four

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one seven nine five nine five a one

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eighty seven seven seven three three one

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oh one one we'll be back

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got an opinion call kxl now five oh

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three four one seven nine kxl or eight

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seven seven seven three three one oh one

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one back to Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis

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business has each in the alliance with

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tonight we'll be bringing onto the green

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Beckley and Claudia Cunningham the men

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in black of course Timothy green Beckley

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is a UFO paranormal pioneer he's written

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several books will be talking with him

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in just a bit and also Claudia about the

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men in black and their findings my

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experience about a man in black from the

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man in black situation February 1st and

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on that day in fact it was brought up to

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me by a listener who was in my facebook

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she said that she was reading a story

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about black hat man

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I guess it's this this mean that they're

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starting on I'm sorry I just posted on

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the chat room above top-secret black hat

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man is this character with this huge

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brimmed hat wearing black tall lanky guy

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and I saw a man in black on February 1st

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it was basically the same thing and on

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that night I was rushed to the hospital

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with some sort of a malady what's up I I

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have to like if you don't mind I have

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two questions

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um okay first of all what a man in black

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looks like I mean can you just feel it

348
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do you just know I mean is it it's not

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not like like DITA come on no III could

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have all Timothy and Claudia discussed

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that because I've come in contact I

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interviewed one I came in contact with

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one prior to my car being bombed in Salt

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Lake City which that's another story if

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I get in that later if that's the case

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but and then of course the one that was

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seen that I saw in February first and

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you say that's bad luck so we might have

359
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a question and you know just throw that

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through earth department right what we

361
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were feeling here that this was so

362
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surreal I mean I'm kind of reliving it

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now it's kind of tingly in the air or

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whatever and then and then you sit made

365
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that whatever when you said we do but

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when you got to the point where you had

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to say mm-hmm call an ambulance for me

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now right what were you going through

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you know where were you swimming well

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there was a sharp pain that came from my

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back went up into my side in my area I

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have this area where it didn't heal

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properly after my cancer surgery went to

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that area then it went and it came all

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the way up my chest into my throat and I

376
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felt like I was having a heart attack it

377
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was a strange feeling ever excuse me

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never experienced it before ever and and

379
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it was just really bad and I just was

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your head swimming was it just no no I I

381
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felt a real go I actually felt like I

382
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was going to I was going to fall it was

383
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going to fall right down

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Wow so anyway you know there you go

385
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that's what happened so it was just a

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bizarre a bar a bizarre feeling let's go

387
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to the phone quickly Thomas wants to

388
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call me Thomas how you're on ground zero

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go ahead okay hey I just want to say I

390
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actually saw that man like um February

391
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1st right across the street from cities

392
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on the corner so you were there well I

393
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was driving by in my car and I saw this

394
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guy and he just looked really kind of

395
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out of place he was just solids looks

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kind of stone cold with a long trench

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coat on right there by the 405 right

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yeah yeah and he was like he was down on

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the side of the street and as that drove

400
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by I had my window cracked tonight I

401
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kind of hollered at him right at the

402
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girl I went hey and he didn't even

403
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flinch and I really thought was weird

404
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and so I was listening to your show that

405
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night and then like I was trying to call

406
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in that night oh when I first announced

407
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it well I was trying to call him right

408
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at 10:30 I was I was you know I didn't

409
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know that you know you had a situation

410
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,380
going on but I mean and the odd thing

411
00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:10,240
about this story is what happened to me

412
00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:11,710
that night is that you know I went to

413
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sleep kind of freaked out you know

414
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through the experience of trying to get

415
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in and having you know your show go to

416
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the repeat I woke up that night to a

417
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helicopter like shaking my bed so you

418
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know I just kinda I'm not trying to tie

419
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:30,460
everything all together but it was

420
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really kind of strange I've never had

421
00:19:36,330 --> 00:19:34,060
that experience so okay so you saw so I

422
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:36,340
guess then you saw me Ben did you see me

423
00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:38,170
walking down the street did you see me

424
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:39,820
there yeah I tell you I was trying to

425
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:41,530
call in and say that I had I saw you

426
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:43,210
that day and I was wondering what you

427
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:44,410
thought of that guy and I actually drew

428
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a sketch of this guy you did can you can

429
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,990
you can you scan it and send it to you

430
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to my email or send it to all off at

431
00:19:56,370 --> 00:19:54,070
anomalies dotnet we can get up on the

432
00:19:57,570 --> 00:19:56,380
get it up on the website that's amazing

433
00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:57,580
I didn't know that anybody else thought

434
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I thought well there was a lot of cars

435
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:00,790
of course that whole area is a big a car

436
00:20:04,110 --> 00:20:02,650
thing but yeah I had no idea because I

437
00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:04,120
was running to try and get to an

438
00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:06,670
appointment it was a lot of traffic and

439
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I try to actually go around the block

440
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and I normally carry but I didn't have

441
00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:11,830
it alright alright well do this sketch

442
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:13,480
send it off Thank You Thomas for calling

443
00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:14,890
thank you so much well we got a witness

444
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:16,180
that's good we'll be back with more

445
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keeping

446
00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:22,300
Ground Zero FM news 101 kxl more with

447
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Clyde Lewis and ground zero radio on FM

448
00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:36,910
news 101 KX and he started to encounter

449
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a very very bizarre feeling it was pure

450
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and when I looked

451
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I'm very tall like a man walking towards

452
00:21:01,720 --> 00:20:55,870
me but he aimed out of place and run

453
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we other people who make sure things

454
00:21:51,180 --> 00:21:06,840
happen according to plan we monitor each

455
00:21:58,570 --> 00:21:54,160
you'll wonder now to stop the call

456
00:22:01,400 --> 00:21:58,580
Guinness catastrophic plan designed by

457
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:03,670
I'm quite Lewis so this is ground zero

458
00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:08,460
tonight the men in black the black hat

459
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:11,400
man seems to be the story going around

460
00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:12,690
the internet right now Timothy green

461
00:22:18,530 --> 00:22:14,940
Beckley is a UFO paranormal pioneer

462
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:18,540
since the early age of his life is more

463
00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:20,610
than less revolved around the paranormal

464
00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:22,950
he has his house he was raised in he

465
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thought to be haunted he underwent a

466
00:22:30,890 --> 00:22:27,540
number of out-of-body experiences at age

467
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six he sighs first of three UFOs when he

468
00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:32,640
was 10 over the years he's written over

469
00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:35,070
30 books on everything from rock music -

470
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:37,980
the secret mj-12 papers today is the

471
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president of inner light global

472
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communications an editor of conspiracy

473
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,220
journal and bizarre bizarre he's on now

474
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:45,840
with Claudia Cunningham we're gonna

475
00:22:50,750 --> 00:22:48,330
bring both of them on now hi Claudia hi

476
00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:50,760
Tim you're on ground zero hey how are ya

477
00:22:54,770 --> 00:22:52,980
how are you guys I'm having me I'm

478
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:54,780
excited to have you both on because of

479
00:22:58,370 --> 00:22:56,610
your expertise and you could explain to

480
00:23:00,290 --> 00:22:58,380
the audience about the men in black we

481
00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:00,300
have as a matter of fact on the front

482
00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:02,940
page of ground zero media org a picture

483
00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:04,500
that you're famous for to him a picture

484
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:06,180
of a man in black you took what did you

485
00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:10,440
take this MIB well this goes back to the

486
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:16,800
summer of 1966 there was a wave a flap

487
00:23:21,740 --> 00:23:18,810
of UFO sightings well not just sightings

488
00:23:25,550 --> 00:23:21,750
but of creature reports in the

489
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metropolitan area actually in the town

490
00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:29,450
of I believe was Passaic New Jersey some

491
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:34,500
teenagers had been out in the park one

492
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:39,110
evening just after dark and they had had

493
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:41,850
a UFO sighting but the the object

494
00:23:46,730 --> 00:23:44,640
apparently had landed and some beings

495
00:23:48,530 --> 00:23:46,740
came out of the ship I I think if I

496
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:48,540
remember correctly there were more

497
00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:50,730
creature types than humanoids yeah and

498
00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:51,960
you know what I'm saying that yeah I

499
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:53,550
don't know if they look like a moth man

500
00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:56,490
or or Bigfoot or what but they were

501
00:24:01,310 --> 00:23:58,770
hairy little monsters if I recall but

502
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:01,320
correctly okay so a word of the sighting

503
00:24:06,550 --> 00:24:03,450
had gotten out I guess they had reported

504
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:06,560
it to the police not knowing any better

505
00:24:13,490 --> 00:24:11,490
and the UFO investigators came in and

506
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:13,500
started interviewing them apparently the

507
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:15,090
sighting went on for

508
00:24:18,739 --> 00:24:17,129
quite a few minutes until the young

509
00:24:21,340 --> 00:24:18,749
fellows kind of panicked and got

510
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:21,350
squeamish about this because after all

511
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,730
UFOs are not known to be landing in

512
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:25,679
parks and Paramus I mean it just doesn't

513
00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:27,690
happen every day maybe once a week but

514
00:24:31,879 --> 00:24:29,700
not that often you know so they got the

515
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,889
heck out of there right and they went

516
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home to their parents and I think they

517
00:24:38,899 --> 00:24:36,600
were all know around the 15/16 their

518
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year-old age level you know teenagers

519
00:24:44,269 --> 00:24:41,070
they went home reported to the parents

520
00:24:46,879 --> 00:24:44,279
there's a big commotion about it and the

521
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UFO investigators came in investigate

522
00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:50,340
the case now they were on the perimeter

523
00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:53,340
of the park telling the their

524
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:55,320
experiences to this fellow who was

525
00:25:00,379 --> 00:24:57,690
representative of a magazine called

526
00:25:03,139 --> 00:25:00,389
saucer news which I was on the staff of

527
00:25:06,619 --> 00:25:03,149
at the time and the fella his name is

528
00:25:10,129 --> 00:25:06,629
George Smyth and the backup man there

529
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:10,139
was a John Robinson John J Robinson he's

530
00:25:15,109 --> 00:25:13,289
since deceased but Jack as we call him

531
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:15,119
he was a regular guest on like the Long

532
00:25:18,019 --> 00:25:17,129
John Neville show you know and love Long

533
00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:18,029
John Neverland

534
00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:20,940
oh I grew up with life wasn't for long

535
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,740
time Neverland I wouldn't be sitting

536
00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:24,480
here talking to Clyde Lewis I wouldn't

537
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:25,740
be I would be here either if it weren't

538
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:28,169
for Long John Neville I love ya yeah

539
00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:29,850
yeah well you know I was I was a guest

540
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:31,350
on the show a few times but let's get

541
00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:33,570
back to the siding here so anyway they

542
00:25:38,779 --> 00:25:35,669
were they were revealing the details of

543
00:25:40,129 --> 00:25:38,789
their experience and they noticed one of

544
00:25:44,830 --> 00:25:40,139
the researchers happened to notice about

545
00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:44,840
a half a block down was this big black

546
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:47,669
Cadillac or big black car you know mmm

547
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:50,490
Sudan of some type and the window was

548
00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:52,830
rolled just partly down and they could

549
00:25:58,249 --> 00:25:55,860
see a couple of gentlemen inside the the

550
00:25:59,840 --> 00:25:58,259
vehicle appearing out you know just over

551
00:26:01,580 --> 00:25:59,850
the top of the glass and of course the

552
00:26:04,399 --> 00:26:01,590
blast was blacking out so you couldn't

553
00:26:05,419 --> 00:26:04,409
see in well at first they felt well

554
00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:05,429
maybe they were from the police

555
00:26:09,259 --> 00:26:07,320
department I just keeping an eye on what

556
00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:09,269
was going on there seeing that there

557
00:26:12,830 --> 00:26:11,190
wasn't any vandalism or that the kids

558
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:12,840
weren't drunk or high on drugs course

559
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:14,369
back in those days there wasn't very

560
00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:16,919
much drugs or alcohol going around you

561
00:26:24,590 --> 00:26:21,860
know and not among teenagers anyway and

562
00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:24,600
so the they filed a report with the

563
00:26:28,980 --> 00:26:26,039
saucer news magazine

564
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:28,990
okay now Jack lived over in in

565
00:26:33,419 --> 00:26:32,050
city which you take the path training it

566
00:26:35,970 --> 00:26:33,429
takes about 15 minutes to get there from

567
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:35,980
midtown Manhattan we had an office on

568
00:26:40,410 --> 00:26:37,990
Fifth Avenue it wasn't glamorous it was

569
00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:40,420
a small office and a gym Moseley was a

570
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:42,040
publisher and editor associate news it

571
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,770
had a fairly large circulation you know

572
00:26:49,950 --> 00:26:46,480
for for those days he was like the

573
00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:49,960
kingpin of the UFO publishing right and

574
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:52,630
we kept getting repeated the telephone

575
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:55,510
calls from a Jackie Robinson's wife Mary

576
00:26:59,310 --> 00:26:57,850
now like I said they lived in Jersey

577
00:27:01,460 --> 00:26:59,320
City which through the past trying to

578
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:01,470
get there about maybe 15 to 20 minutes

579
00:27:07,230 --> 00:27:04,570
according to Mary when her husband Jack

580
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:07,240
would go to work in in the city in

581
00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:09,010
Manhattan he would take the PATH train

582
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:10,929
over he worked in the bank when he would

583
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:12,340
leave to work she would go out and do

584
00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:17,679
her errands and she noticed while she

585
00:27:21,980 --> 00:27:19,630
would be coming back that there was a

586
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:21,990
strange individual dressed all in black

587
00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:26,050
in including the Hat and so a black

588
00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:27,870
shoes and black pants and the whole bit

589
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:30,190
standing in the adjacent doorway

590
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,960
seemingly keeping tabs on whoever was

591
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:37,120
coming into their apartment building now

592
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:38,770
they didn't have an office or anything

593
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:41,230
there so that's kind of like peculiar I

594
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:43,090
don't think they had a lot of in and out

595
00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:46,210
activity as far as UFO stuff one I mean

596
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:48,340
we did have remember having meetings and

597
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:50,110
Jack always was kind of like the

598
00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:52,150
secretary of the the group he kept the

599
00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:53,350
minutes and everything but it was any

600
00:27:57,210 --> 00:27:55,720
big deal there were dozens of people

601
00:27:58,620 --> 00:27:57,220
maybe a handful people might come over

602
00:28:01,140 --> 00:27:58,630
in the evening around the weekend or

603
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:01,150
something but Jack found that he was

604
00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:03,390
having trouble with his fellow phone the

605
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:05,830
lines of conversations were being cut

606
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:08,290
off you know in the middle of talking to

607
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:12,910
someone the I think some of his files

608
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:16,270
were a rifled through when he was out of

609
00:28:20,910 --> 00:28:18,940
the house nothing missing but they'd be

610
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:20,920
you know the the door the file cabinet

611
00:28:24,810 --> 00:28:22,450
would be slit open then he knew we had

612
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:24,820
closed it and sometimes some of the

613
00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:26,410
stuff would be on on the floor and

614
00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:28,120
tapers scattered around and it didn't

615
00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:30,100
seem possible that anybody else was

616
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,030
coming in and out of the apartment

617
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,480
because only a Jackson's wife Mary had

618
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:37,600
the keys so she would call us you know

619
00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:39,010
we'd get to work about ten o'clock in

620
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:41,169
the morning and there'd be a message on

621
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:41,940
the machine

622
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:43,320
actually I think we had an answering

623
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:45,210
services at time you know call him call

624
00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:47,640
Mary and we call Mary and she was

625
00:28:52,910 --> 00:28:49,020
getting more concerned about this

626
00:28:56,780 --> 00:28:52,920
individual that was apparently hunkering

627
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,790
down in the doorway next door so you

628
00:29:02,090 --> 00:28:58,320
know we didn't know whether she was like

629
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:02,100
yanking our chain or welfare you know if

630
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:03,510
she was being sincere about this because

631
00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:04,710
she didn't fool around with the Ouija

632
00:29:09,260 --> 00:29:06,600
board and she had she was a little bit

633
00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:09,270
less nuts-and-bolts than than her

634
00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:11,880
husband Jack he was more of the stable

635
00:29:16,730 --> 00:29:13,680
individual in the house and and Mary was

636
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:16,740
more of the the paranormal a psychic

637
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,190
type you know talk to spirits or fairies

638
00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:22,200
and the trees outside and and so forth

639
00:29:29,210 --> 00:29:24,030
so we figured well maybe she's just

640
00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:29,220
having a relapse or something exactly we

641
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:31,590
decided we decided what morning at Clyde

642
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:33,720
that we were going to go over drive over

643
00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:35,940
through the Lincoln Tunnel and go over

644
00:29:40,340 --> 00:29:37,680
to palisade Avenue where they live

645
00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:40,350
without telling them so this way we

646
00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:41,900
could see if there was anything unusual

647
00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:45,720
going on in the neighborhood any

648
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:49,230
headless creatures or levitating genies

649
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:53,490
or what have you done so we get we get

650
00:29:58,910 --> 00:29:56,700
over there and it's a rush hour and now

651
00:30:01,040 --> 00:29:58,920
rush hour at Jersey City is not rush

652
00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:01,050
hour in Manhattan but you might have

653
00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:03,240
five or six cars on the block right and

654
00:30:08,150 --> 00:30:05,190
it was pretty if I remember correctly

655
00:30:09,770 --> 00:30:08,160
was a pretty narrow street and people

656
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:09,780
will double parked there's probably a

657
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:11,730
bagel shop on the corner or something

658
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:14,130
and in a barber shop I think if you look

659
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:15,600
at the photograph you can see up a

660
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,510
barber pole is sticking out there you

661
00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:21,120
know kind of an older a neighborhood

662
00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:22,590
something you might expect to see like

663
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:25,230
maybe around Mulberry Street it probably

664
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:26,640
the best recollection I could you know

665
00:30:30,650 --> 00:30:29,370
come up anyway so we decide we got to

666
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:30,660
pull in over there and we're going to

667
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:32,730
get to the bottom of this mystery as

668
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:35,580
soon as we can you know and it's just

669
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:38,220
put it all out on the table so we get

670
00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:39,960
there now and I could say the traffic is

671
00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:42,900
kind of just crawling along and indeed

672
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:45,540
there is someone standing in the doorway

673
00:30:53,150 --> 00:30:51,360
and there is a black car a parked in the

674
00:30:55,670 --> 00:30:53,160
spot you know not a hundred feet away

675
00:30:59,540 --> 00:30:55,680
from where this individual was standing

676
00:31:01,700 --> 00:30:59,550
so Jim Mosley hands me his camera he was

677
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:01,710
driving and I was sitting in the

678
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:03,720
passenger seat up front you know he

679
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:05,970
hands me his camera and says take some

680
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:08,070
pictures so I stick it out the window

681
00:31:13,010 --> 00:31:10,020
I took the photographs of the gentleman

682
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:13,020
standing zombie-like in the doorway if

683
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:14,880
I'm very rigid I mean you can just tell

684
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:17,370
this is very very unusual nobody stands

685
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:19,410
room like that right well why is

686
00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:20,730
somebody where I I don't know it just

687
00:31:26,150 --> 00:31:23,070
wasn't somebody suggested well maybe he

688
00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:26,160
was a pole bear well if he was he came

689
00:31:31,550 --> 00:31:27,990
out of the movie phantasm or something

690
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:31,560
like Galaga tall men and phantasm you

691
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:35,220
know so anyway we decided we took a

692
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:37,410
photograph of the vehicle and of this

693
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:40,230
MIB or member or whatever whoever he was

694
00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:43,290
we're going to go around the block and

695
00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:46,200
come back try to find a parking space or

696
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:47,940
double Park like all the other yo-yos

697
00:31:54,140 --> 00:31:51,510
and see if we can't have a word to get

698
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:54,150
to the bottom of all of this - gentleman

699
00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:56,520
in a residential neighborhood standing

700
00:32:03,320 --> 00:31:57,990
in the doorway of an apartment building

701
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:03,330
of a us or researcher know that so he we

702
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:05,040
come back it takes us probably around

703
00:32:11,150 --> 00:32:06,630
maybe five or six seven minutes to

704
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,160
circle the block because of the traffic

705
00:32:16,580 --> 00:32:13,440
in the narrow streets and the people

706
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:16,590
just double parking we get back the car

707
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:19,140
is gone and the gentleman is gone

708
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:22,290
well okay so he packed up his black bag

709
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:25,230
and went somewhere else but kind of the

710
00:32:29,390 --> 00:32:26,790
strange thing is is maybe he had

711
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:29,400
appeared there seven eight nine ten

712
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:31,830
times to Mary over the period of a

713
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:34,250
couple of weeks he never showed up again

714
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,140
it's like we frightened though it's kind

715
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:39,600
of like a reverse psychology here

716
00:32:44,540 --> 00:32:42,120
instead of the men in black frightening

717
00:32:46,370 --> 00:32:44,550
us off we frighten him off well most of

718
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:46,380
the time yeah most of the time I had a

719
00:32:49,730 --> 00:32:47,730
feeling that when I saw this guy

720
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:49,740
standing he was near the 405 near

721
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:52,130
Sookie's as a matter of fact the the

722
00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:54,360
this sketch is on the website right now

723
00:32:59,150 --> 00:32:56,270
just below your men in black photos yeah

724
00:33:01,280 --> 00:32:59,160
you know and it was odd it did look like

725
00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:01,290
that he kind of had he was bald had that

726
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:03,960
hat he had a coat III even remember

727
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:05,250
maybe something - they looked like a

728
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:07,200
walking stick I'm not sure that there's

729
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:07,990
Rick

730
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:10,240
sorry it's great it's great you got a

731
00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:12,250
witness that fellow that just called up

732
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:14,140
and they had seen it from his you know

733
00:33:18,299 --> 00:33:16,840
passing by in is the automobile I mean

734
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:18,309
there's their certification if they're

735
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:20,470
ever well it's a very busy we're asking

736
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:21,130
yeah go ahead

737
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:23,410
you were asking you were asking what the

738
00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:26,290
the men and black can look like well the

739
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:29,260
men in black in the the Will Smith movie

740
00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:32,290
are way too slick yeah I mean these guys

741
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:33,940
are always wearing like usually wearing

742
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:36,250
crumpled clothes they look like the

743
00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:38,530
Blues Brothers that's the best way that

744
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:39,940
I can describe them and you know

745
00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:42,750
something it turns out I found out that

746
00:33:48,090 --> 00:33:45,220
Dan Aykroyd who of course was in the

747
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,100
Blues Brothers and wrote the you the

748
00:33:53,730 --> 00:33:50,080
script of course it's a big UFO a

749
00:33:57,060 --> 00:33:53,740
believer it has even a video out on UFOs

750
00:34:00,090 --> 00:33:57,070
mhm and apparently he's even had a mid

751
00:34:02,010 --> 00:34:00,100
experience now that came after he had a

752
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:02,020
membe experience while he was talking to

753
00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:04,300
Britney Spears on the phone it's a hard

754
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:05,620
thing to explain and I don't know

755
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:07,030
whether it really nice yeah I mean dan

756
00:34:10,169 --> 00:34:08,710
Aykroyd had several experiences I'd love

757
00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:10,179
to get him on the air with me because he

758
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:13,149
seems to be the man who and even now one

759
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,010
of his good friends Fran Drescher claims

760
00:34:20,609 --> 00:34:17,200
that she was abducted by aliens III

761
00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:20,619
understand that we know of his his

762
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:23,409
father what was big in the the

763
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:25,450
spiritualist community in fact his dad

764
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:28,350
dan Aykroyd father has a book out on

765
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:31,090
spiritualism on ghosts that he wrote

766
00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:34,720
apparently the some of the parents

767
00:34:39,629 --> 00:34:36,899
grandparents were involved in the early

768
00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:39,639
spiritualist movement so they lived in a

769
00:34:46,109 --> 00:34:43,240
place up there in in Canada I guess it's

770
00:34:48,330 --> 00:34:46,119
Canadian you know and and had all these

771
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:48,340
experience he grew up around the

772
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:50,409
paranormal in ghosts and so forth and

773
00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:52,510
you know of course Ghostbusters 3 I

774
00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:54,220
think they're just in the middle of

775
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:56,710
shooting that now and you know he's

776
00:34:59,880 --> 00:34:57,760
always had an interest in this

777
00:35:01,230 --> 00:34:59,890
paranormal so he's one of the guys up

778
00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:01,240
there and in Hollywood in the

779
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:03,460
entertainment business is kind of just

780
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:05,650
you know move this into to what he does

781
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:07,210
for a living which is really cool any

782
00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:08,950
guy any guy who promotes Crystal Skull

783
00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:13,750
vodka is alright by me on the air but

784
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:16,840
that is pretty good vodka yeah went on

785
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,450
my tiki bar yes

786
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:20,160
yeah Timothy green Beckley's with us

787
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:22,290
tonight on ground zero and we're glad to

788
00:35:25,609 --> 00:35:23,940
have him here Claudia Cunningham we'll

789
00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:25,619
be hearing for her from her coming up as

790
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:27,750
well having both on the air discussing

791
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:30,510
the men in black the mi B's I saw a man

792
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:32,190
in black on February 1st right there on

793
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:33,390
the 405 right there you're Sookie's

794
00:35:37,789 --> 00:35:35,670
fourth area right in there we had a

795
00:35:40,130 --> 00:35:37,799
witness Thomas who said that he saw that

796
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:40,140
same man in black he sketched the man in

797
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:41,400
black picture he's got it on my website

798
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:43,910
right now and also we have Timothy

799
00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:46,380
Beckley's picture that he took as well

800
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:49,230
of a man in black coming up we also have

801
00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:51,420
a caller who said he may have seen one

802
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,940
in Newberg five oh three four one seven

803
00:35:57,319 --> 00:35:55,680
nine five nine five or one eight seven

804
00:35:59,839 --> 00:35:57,329
seven seven three three one oh one one

805
00:36:03,410 --> 00:35:59,849
they seem to be all over we'll find out

806
00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:03,420
we're coming up on Ground Zero got an

807
00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:05,700
opinion call kxl now

808
00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:09,030
five-o three four one seven nine kxl or

809
00:36:14,809 --> 00:36:12,119
eight seven seven seven three three 101

810
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:14,819
one this is ground zero

811
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:26,839
Ron zero with Clyde Lewis tonight on

812
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:27,990
ground zero we're talking about the men

813
00:36:31,549 --> 00:36:29,640
in black with Timothy green Beckley and

814
00:36:33,530 --> 00:36:31,559
Claudia Cunningham having a bowl of the

815
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:33,540
show is quite an honor tonight

816
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:36,119
discussing the men in black and the

817
00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:38,040
history of the men in black what to look

818
00:36:42,109 --> 00:36:39,990
for in fact we've got Matt right now

819
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:42,119
calling in from Portland Matt hi you're

820
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:44,609
on ground zero hey Clyde hey what's up

821
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,400
hey not much hey I just wanted a I you

822
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:49,680
know I I Drive a truck and I have a

823
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,510
Robison Newberg and I I was in your show

824
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:56,160
and I had to call in because I've seen

825
00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:59,010
this and I saw a guy I don't know if

826
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:00,420
you're familiar with the town or not

827
00:37:05,299 --> 00:37:03,750
yeah I've been through many times so you

828
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:05,309
know if you're going through 9 9 w and

829
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:06,569
you're heading towards like McMinnville

830
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:10,260
right before you get to you know the

831
00:37:15,319 --> 00:37:12,690
take a ride in your gut George Fox

832
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:15,329
University mmm there was a guy standing

833
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:18,569
right there and I saw him and I thought

834
00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:20,910
nothing much of it and I can take me off

835
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:23,700
my route well I have you know a lot of

836
00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:25,230
stops over there I was there for four or

837
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:27,470
five hours the guy never moved and

838
00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:30,450
looking at sky he's like this and he

839
00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:32,220
just you know he's staring off into

840
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,200
space kind of but you know looking back

841
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:37,440
and forth you know everybody he just

842
00:37:42,980 --> 00:37:40,290
never really had any emotion nothing at

843
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:42,990
all to him and I had to call and let you

844
00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:45,740
know I mean it was just it was just so

845
00:37:50,359 --> 00:37:47,640
everything you're saying about this it

846
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:50,369
was just so weird this guy yeah I mean

847
00:37:53,329 --> 00:37:51,660
that's the point I mean you get a

848
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:53,339
feeling when you see these guys it's not

849
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:55,170
like you know anybody walking buying a

850
00:37:59,870 --> 00:37:57,690
coat to hat doesn't faze you but there's

851
00:38:02,990 --> 00:37:59,880
something about a man in black you know

852
00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:03,000
it's him by his mannerisms and and by

853
00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:05,190
how he seems like he's a robot he seems

854
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:07,500
like he's plastic or he seems like he's

855
00:38:12,049 --> 00:38:09,420
a he's a zombie and a coke Claudia

856
00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:12,059
Claudia what do you say to that you you

857
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:13,740
concur that this is what we're looking

858
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:17,160
at is lifeless types of beings and coats

859
00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:21,530
I agree with that but I did see one

860
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:23,880
actually at a shopping center which I'll

861
00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:26,400
tell you about a little bit later but my

862
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:29,160
guy was probably about five four maybe

863
00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:33,119
five four and a half completely in black

864
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:35,640
in fact his outfit looked like it just

865
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:36,990
came out of

866
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:38,730
Maci's I mean he looked like he just

867
00:38:44,359 --> 00:38:41,010
bought all new clothes

868
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:44,369
even the the shirt was had creased in it

869
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:47,130
and his pants were creased but there was

870
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:51,090
something I can't explain it something

871
00:38:57,380 --> 00:38:53,190
in this smile it was very creepy he

872
00:39:00,140 --> 00:38:57,390
moved normally no but he kind of well it

873
00:39:02,330 --> 00:39:00,150
kind of goes into this the first part of

874
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:02,340
my story that I'll tell you it was kind

875
00:39:08,330 --> 00:39:04,740
of a confirmation of what my friend had

876
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:08,340
seen in the cemetery okay which has it's

877
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:10,500
very haunted but I have no doubt in my

878
00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:11,850
mind thinking about it that that's

879
00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,470
exactly what I saw

880
00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:15,720
well Matt Matt you here Claudia what

881
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:16,980
she's saying we're gonna hear her story

882
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:19,020
coming up in the next hour Matt thank

883
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:20,130
you so much for sharing that with us

884
00:39:22,609 --> 00:39:20,670
tonight

885
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:22,619
ain't no problem and you just let her

886
00:39:28,609 --> 00:39:26,160
know I he kind of he didn't have a

887
00:39:31,070 --> 00:39:28,619
through his body but he moved it he

888
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:31,080
moved his head yeah it's just strange

889
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:34,410
like that that's for sure I have a lot

890
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:37,920
more to add to that well hope will hold

891
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:39,240
you over well hold you over just for a

892
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:40,680
little bit okay hold on we'll be right

893
00:39:42,590 --> 00:39:41,160
with you

894
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,600
we're gonna be back with more of Matt's

895
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:44,240
story we'll also hear from Claudia and

896
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:46,650
her story about her man in black

897
00:39:50,570 --> 00:39:49,020
encounter coming up on ground zero is

898
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:50,580
Timothy green Beckley is with us and

899
00:39:55,070 --> 00:39:53,520
your stories as well 503 four and seven

900
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:55,080
nine five nine five or one eight seven

901
00:40:04,020 --> 00:39:56,730
seven seven three three one oh one one

902
00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:12,950
I'm quite Lois and this is ground zero

903
00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:14,749
Ground Zero brought you at Portland Gold

904
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:16,740
Buyers go to Portland Gold Buyers calm

905
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,150
and click in the upper right hand corner

906
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:20,880
you can go in and get involved the

907
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:26,430
seminar on February 25th that'll be

908
00:40:31,509 --> 00:40:28,710
amazing you should be able to learn

909
00:40:33,499 --> 00:40:31,519
about how to invest in silver and gold

910
00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:33,509
Oscar was telling me he just picked up

911
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:35,700
on some gold pandas that we're really

912
00:40:40,819 --> 00:40:39,210
inexpensive that you can invest in it

913
00:40:42,319 --> 00:40:40,829
you don't have to be rich to buy gold

914
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:42,329
you can buy a little bit of gold and

915
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:44,730
watch it mature little by little it all

916
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,920
seems to add up he can show you how you

917
00:40:52,940 --> 00:40:49,200
can do it so you can make some dividends

918
00:40:56,749 --> 00:40:52,950
and some backup to the currency that's

919
00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:56,759
dying on the vine for sure go to

920
00:41:00,200 --> 00:40:58,859
Portland Gold Buyers com click on the

921
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,210
right upper right hand corner for the

922
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:02,880
seminar for February 25th at seminar of

923
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:05,099
course it's $50 you put in clyde space

924
00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:07,980
now in the shopping cart you get to

925
00:41:14,569 --> 00:41:11,190
enter in for $40 and that'll be on

926
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:14,579
February 25th you can also call 9 7 1 2

927
00:41:22,789 --> 00:41:20,430
2 2 3 4 3 5 that's 9 7 1 2 2 2 3 4 3 5

928
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:22,799
you sure do that in contact Oscar a lot

929
00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:24,210
of people have been contacting and

930
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:26,670
asking about buying silver rounds and

931
00:41:30,799 --> 00:41:28,950
gold and also the seminar be sure to

932
00:41:34,609 --> 00:41:30,809
check that out to Portland Gold Buyers

933
00:41:36,739 --> 00:41:34,619
Portland coal buyers calm tonight we are

934
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:36,749
very happy to have on the program two

935
00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:39,210
remarkable people Timothy green Beckley

936
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:40,920
Claudia Cunningham cinnamon ground zero

937
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:43,049
to talk about the infamous men in black

938
00:41:46,789 --> 00:41:45,180
now that I seem to have a lot of

939
00:41:49,069 --> 00:41:46,799
encounters with the men in black I've

940
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,079
had at least three that I know of I'm

941
00:41:52,339 --> 00:41:50,880
gonna bring Matt on to finish his story

942
00:41:53,539 --> 00:41:52,349
Matt you were talking about new breezes

943
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:53,549
you want to add one more thing to this

944
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:55,079
story about the man standing there near

945
00:42:00,049 --> 00:41:58,650
the college what did you see well you

946
00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:00,059
know wasn't anything to really add to

947
00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:02,579
that story oh you said you wanted to add

948
00:42:07,579 --> 00:42:05,190
something to it right oh yeah yeah of

949
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:07,589
course I want to add to it I was just

950
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:10,170
saying you know there's a lot of things

951
00:42:16,220 --> 00:42:14,730
that you know I see you know listening

952
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:16,230
to your shows and listen the other shows

953
00:42:22,729 --> 00:42:19,710
and you know it's it people came out

954
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:22,739
plain times before saying that you know

955
00:42:26,299 --> 00:42:24,710
the government knows about

956
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:26,309
extraterrestrials and the government

957
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:26,700
knows

958
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:28,650
things that are going on now you see

959
00:42:33,319 --> 00:42:31,470
these huge camps being built you know

960
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:33,329
and all over the country and these

961
00:42:37,220 --> 00:42:35,670
cities have you heard of these trainings

962
00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:37,230
that are being built with shackles and

963
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,520
these train cars would be little

964
00:42:43,460 --> 00:42:40,560
shackles in them and I'm going what is

965
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:43,470
really going on here yeah well nobody

966
00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:45,390
really knows and it makes a guy worry

967
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:47,220
when you start seeing you start seeing

968
00:42:54,140 --> 00:42:51,839
90-degree angles I came by the name

969
00:42:55,970 --> 00:42:54,150
those clouds that you can't the the

970
00:42:58,099 --> 00:42:55,980
contrail you saw everybody saw that they

971
00:43:00,020 --> 00:42:58,109
were battle but that was the day after

972
00:43:00,530 --> 00:43:00,030
that man in black was seen in Oregon

973
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,540
Portland

974
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:02,940
exactly exactly any sort seen things

975
00:43:08,810 --> 00:43:05,160
like that and you 13 I worked I work at

976
00:43:10,609 --> 00:43:08,820
night and and all right I don't need

977
00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:10,619
more sorry but I work tonight for five

978
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:12,630
years so when I get off work I always

979
00:43:18,290 --> 00:43:15,480
you know I'm a Nighthawk so I I look up

980
00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:18,300
and see these I see stuff in the sky all

981
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:21,660
the time mm-hmm and I'm going what is

982
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:23,160
really going on here and what are they

983
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:24,510
not telling us and what is being

984
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:28,230
prepared you know and it makes a person

985
00:43:32,089 --> 00:43:30,660
just worried well you shouldn't worry

986
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:32,099
Matt you shouldn't worry you should

987
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:33,450
prepare yourself and that's why I've

988
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,890
been telling you you should do this you

989
00:43:38,089 --> 00:43:36,540
should do these things like explain to

990
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:38,099
you to do you know it's like I was

991
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:39,510
explaining to a friend of mine I said

992
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:41,490
you know I bring on sponsors that I feel

993
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,700
that need to help you prepare and that

994
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:47,220
is exactly why I have people like

995
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:48,660
Portland preparedness center I have

996
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:50,700
people like Portland Gold Buyers and of

997
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:52,770
course Legal Shield which is a new

998
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:54,390
sponsor she'll protect you with lawyers

999
00:43:57,710 --> 00:43:55,740
you know I'm prepaid legal you have a

1000
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,720
lawyer for you if you need it things are

1001
00:44:02,390 --> 00:43:59,280
changing laws are changing that's why

1002
00:44:04,460 --> 00:44:02,400
it's important that we prepare ourselves

1003
00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:04,470
once again Timothy green Beckley and

1004
00:44:08,180 --> 00:44:06,119
Claudia Cunningham Claudia you are going

1005
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:08,190
to relate a story about your men in

1006
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:10,170
black encounter I wanted to hear about

1007
00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:11,849
this because it sounded fascinate you

1008
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:13,470
were talking about first of all one you

1009
00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:14,760
saw in a shopping mall but then there

1010
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:15,990
was another thing you want to relate to

1011
00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:17,490
you didn't quite get to it I'd like to

1012
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:20,700
have you talk about it okay well I'll

1013
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:23,270
start by saying I've always rather

1014
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:26,130
embraced or been interested in the

1015
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:28,380
unknown or the arcane

1016
00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:31,710
you know the mysterious all my life but

1017
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:34,380
my I guess you might say my entree into

1018
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:37,650
the men and black situation actually

1019
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:39,690
started with an incident

1020
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:42,720
in this haunted cemetery near Albany New

1021
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:45,660
York which is where I live which is

1022
00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:47,970
about a hundred and forty miles north of

1023
00:44:55,460 --> 00:44:53,220
Manhattan and it started in 1973 and I

1024
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,470
remember because I just got my 73

1025
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:57,599
Mustang convertible which I was very

1026
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:01,680
proud of and my sister-in-law and I were

1027
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:04,650
out riding around and her little

1028
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:06,839
daughter who was like three years old at

1029
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:07,440
the time

1030
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:11,130
my niece Lisa was with us and we were

1031
00:45:16,220 --> 00:45:13,170
feeling silly so I said let's go in the

1032
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:16,230
cemetery the cemetery is really an

1033
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:18,510
imposing place it's like something out

1034
00:45:25,099 --> 00:45:22,079
of a gothic horror movie and it was near

1035
00:45:26,750 --> 00:45:25,109
dusk and we pulled in and we were like

1036
00:45:31,150 --> 00:45:26,760
the only ones there as far as I could

1037
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:31,160
see and there are these rows and rows of

1038
00:45:39,170 --> 00:45:36,319
very ornate vaults or crypts for the

1039
00:45:42,490 --> 00:45:39,180
actually was for the aristocracy of the

1040
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:42,500
area Albany was originally a Dutch

1041
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:45,569
settlement in the 1600s and a lot of the

1042
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:49,770
founding fathers the money the landed

1043
00:45:55,540 --> 00:45:51,690
gentry as what I guess you could call

1044
00:45:59,180 --> 00:45:55,550
them are buried there and one of the

1045
00:46:01,819 --> 00:45:59,190
vaults belonged to it said John Boyd

1046
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:01,829
Thatcher which got my attention right

1047
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:05,430
off the bat he was very notable early

1048
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,730
mayor of Albany so I said to Dottie my

1049
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:10,260
sister and I so let's go over and take a

1050
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:12,030
look in this thing and she said oh no

1051
00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:13,619
you're crazy I'm not going to go over

1052
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,990
there so I took the baby by the hand you

1053
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:18,240
know little Lisa and I probably got

1054
00:46:23,890 --> 00:46:21,839
within maybe four feet of the thing and

1055
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:23,900
it sounded like and the only thing I can

1056
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:27,890
equate it to is someone who had a

1057
00:46:34,099 --> 00:46:31,530
metallic something throwing it against

1058
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:34,109
the wall on the inside of the script it

1059
00:46:39,319 --> 00:46:37,740
was a bang and I literally jumped out of

1060
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:39,329
my skin I threw that kid over my

1061
00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:41,730
shoulder jumped in that car and I think

1062
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:43,230
we went out of there 40 miles an hour

1063
00:46:48,349 --> 00:46:46,920
backwards I mean it was really scary and

1064
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,359
I kind of put that away

1065
00:46:53,009 --> 00:46:50,640
and you know was just an interesting

1066
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,019
story that I told through the years

1067
00:46:59,789 --> 00:46:55,839
but you know synchronicity will have its

1068
00:47:02,130 --> 00:46:59,799
way and years later I had come in

1069
00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:02,140
contact with Tim Beckley's really great

1070
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,959
book on the men in black called the

1071
00:47:09,779 --> 00:47:06,880
silencers which will give you nightmares

1072
00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:09,789
which is why I love it and about once a

1073
00:47:14,699 --> 00:47:11,140
year I'll get the book out and I'll read

1074
00:47:16,649 --> 00:47:14,709
it and I was really into the you know

1075
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:16,659
reading it one night and I don't know

1076
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:19,089
maybe a week later ten days later my

1077
00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:22,089
friend Linda called me now Linda is a

1078
00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:25,719
nurse at local Veterans Hospital in

1079
00:47:30,449 --> 00:47:28,630
Albany and I think her experience with

1080
00:47:34,229 --> 00:47:30,459
the occult or whatever you want to call

1081
00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:34,239
it goes as far as maybe going to a Carol

1082
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:36,279
card reader she was completely in the

1083
00:47:41,729 --> 00:47:38,890
dark about anything like this she

1084
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:41,739
recently moved across the street from

1085
00:47:50,609 --> 00:47:47,049
Albany were you there are you there

1086
00:47:53,130 --> 00:47:50,619
Bobbi yeah yes okay go ahead yeah you

1087
00:47:56,819 --> 00:47:53,140
gotta go ahead how are you sir again

1088
00:47:58,499 --> 00:47:56,829
yeah anyway I did get a phone call about

1089
00:48:00,749 --> 00:47:58,509
a year and a half ago after reading

1090
00:48:02,699 --> 00:48:00,759
Tim's book for the hundreds of time and

1091
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:02,709
it was from my friend Linda who's a

1092
00:48:07,739 --> 00:48:05,169
nurse at the Veterans Hospital in Albany

1093
00:48:10,109 --> 00:48:07,749
and she was all excited and you know

1094
00:48:13,379 --> 00:48:10,119
she's 56 years old and she's not a coupe

1095
00:48:14,989 --> 00:48:13,389
she's very you know level-headed and she

1096
00:48:18,209 --> 00:48:14,999
said you know I know that you're really

1097
00:48:19,709 --> 00:48:18,219
interested in weird things and she says

1098
00:48:23,909 --> 00:48:19,719
I really need your opinion on something

1099
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,919
I said sure well first can I just tell

1100
00:48:26,789 --> 00:48:25,119
you about this cemetery because this

1101
00:48:30,139 --> 00:48:26,799
leads to the men in black it's only

1102
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:30,149
making room ok I want to set the scene

1103
00:48:36,929 --> 00:48:35,589
it you know I did a little I went on the

1104
00:48:39,499 --> 00:48:36,939
internet and got some information about

1105
00:48:42,839 --> 00:48:39,509
it it's really an interesting place

1106
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:42,849
years and years ago the city of Albany

1107
00:48:48,779 --> 00:48:45,729
was flooded and some of the cemeteries

1108
00:48:51,899 --> 00:48:48,789
the coffins came to the surface so the

1109
00:48:54,919 --> 00:48:51,909
founding fathers moved cemetery for

1110
00:48:58,649 --> 00:48:54,929
miles out of the city proper to a little

1111
00:49:01,049 --> 00:48:58,659
village called minions and it's the

1112
00:49:03,859 --> 00:49:01,059
albany rural cemetery it's on a hill and

1113
00:49:06,589 --> 00:49:03,869
it's huge it really is it has little

1114
00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:06,599
hills within hills

1115
00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:11,190
tiny side roads gravel gravel roads so

1116
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:14,700
one day she said you know I after work I

1117
00:49:17,539 --> 00:49:16,380
was bored and I figured I'd take a

1118
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:17,549
historical tour

1119
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:21,420
well many notable people are buried

1120
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,339
there like a President of the United

1121
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,680
States by the name of Chester Arthur who

1122
00:49:31,219 --> 00:49:27,599
is one of the more little-known

1123
00:49:33,229 --> 00:49:31,229
presidents there is civil war heroes

1124
00:49:36,469 --> 00:49:33,239
there is the Secretary of the Navy under

1125
00:49:39,289 --> 00:49:36,479
Roosevelt you know everybody's in there

1126
00:49:40,759 --> 00:49:39,299
and the big star of the place which I

1127
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:40,769
didn't know and almost fell over

1128
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:45,119
backwards charles fort himself oh really

1129
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:48,089
charles ford's buried there yes i'm a

1130
00:49:53,180 --> 00:49:50,430
portly and myself so i I find that very

1131
00:49:56,269 --> 00:49:53,190
fascinating yeah I didn't find this out

1132
00:49:58,190 --> 00:49:56,279
until I I did a search on the internet

1133
00:50:01,460 --> 00:49:58,200
after Linda told me this and I almost

1134
00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:01,470
died so anyway she said this is what

1135
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:04,200
happened to her she went through the big

1136
00:50:08,509 --> 00:50:06,660
iron gates into the main entrance and

1137
00:50:12,739 --> 00:50:08,519
you go over a little railroad track on

1138
00:50:15,410 --> 00:50:12,749
the left as a gothic looking grey stone

1139
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:15,420
building that's the office but it

1140
00:50:20,509 --> 00:50:18,210
contains all the information on who's

1141
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:20,519
buried there a little bit up is the

1142
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:23,609
crematorium which is so creepy I can't

1143
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,430
believe it and after that there's a side

1144
00:50:31,269 --> 00:50:28,559
Hill and Linda said I went up this hill

1145
00:50:33,769 --> 00:50:31,279
and it was a gravel road and that day

1146
00:50:35,779 --> 00:50:33,779
we're you know what milkweed is yes

1147
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:35,789
annoying yeah it was like all over the

1148
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:37,529
cemetery it was all over her car she had

1149
00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:39,180
her windshield wipers on it was you know

1150
00:50:44,329 --> 00:50:42,299
and no one was there and she said she

1151
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,339
had her windows open and if she if

1152
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:46,559
anyone was coming and back or in front

1153
00:50:51,999 --> 00:50:48,210
or to the side she would have heard it

1154
00:50:54,739 --> 00:50:52,009
because of the gravel drive driveway and

1155
00:50:58,339 --> 00:50:54,749
no one was there and she said I pulled

1156
00:51:02,479 --> 00:50:58,349
over and she said I looked down to take

1157
00:51:05,299 --> 00:51:02,489
keys out of the ignition and within you

1158
00:51:08,209 --> 00:51:05,309
know a split second she says I looked in

1159
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:08,219
my rearview and here was this huge big

1160
00:51:15,529 --> 00:51:12,210
black shiny SUV military-looking thing

1161
00:51:18,019 --> 00:51:15,539
like a huge Hummer with jet black

1162
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:18,029
windows no milkweed on this thing at all

1163
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:20,490
it looks brand-new

1164
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:23,040
she said it was really really eerie and

1165
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:24,930
she says it just took my breath away and

1166
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:26,370
she said the thing that went through my

1167
00:51:31,550 --> 00:51:28,770
mind was either I was going to get

1168
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:31,560
robbed or killed or something she she

1169
00:51:36,290 --> 00:51:32,850
didn't equate it with anything

1170
00:51:38,540 --> 00:51:36,300
supernatural but she said I decided to

1171
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:38,550
put the car and forward and just kind of

1172
00:51:42,380 --> 00:51:40,110
creep away and see if this thing was

1173
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:42,390
going to follow me instead it backed up

1174
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:44,700
and it appeared to go down one of the

1175
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:47,490
side roads so she watched it until the

1176
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:50,220
top of the thing disappeared and she has

1177
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:53,130
a temper I mean me I would have had a

1178
00:51:58,010 --> 00:51:54,570
heart attack but she was going to follow

1179
00:51:59,680 --> 00:51:58,020
it so she said I turned around and I

1180
00:52:02,300 --> 00:51:59,690
went exactly where this thing

1181
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:02,310
disappeared into and nothing was there

1182
00:52:08,510 --> 00:52:05,760
no Road only a chain-link fence beyond

1183
00:52:09,890 --> 00:52:08,520
this fence looking for graves oh my god

1184
00:52:11,810 --> 00:52:09,900
so yeah

1185
00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:11,820
so with that Jesus I turned around went

1186
00:52:16,610 --> 00:52:14,460
down the road and right in front of the

1187
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:16,620
office this thing was parked and she

1188
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:18,570
says I know that thing was waiting for

1189
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:19,890
me I just had a feeling

1190
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,010
outside of this thing on the driver's

1191
00:52:28,820 --> 00:52:24,720
side like he was talking to the driver

1192
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:28,830
only the window was up was at all weird

1193
00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:31,650
looking man with a pork pie hat like

1194
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:33,900
something you'd see in the fifties crime

1195
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:36,510
movie you know like a Blues Brothers hat

1196
00:52:45,980 --> 00:52:40,290
all dressed in black a dark complected

1197
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:45,990
man wraparound black sunglasses the

1198
00:52:50,090 --> 00:52:48,000
whole thing and she said I you know I

1199
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:50,100
was watching him in my mirror and she

1200
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:51,930
says I just punched it she's I stepped

1201
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,250
on the ignition I went to get out of

1202
00:52:59,660 --> 00:52:55,740
there and this guy just vanished right

1203
00:53:01,820 --> 00:52:59,670
into thin air just disappeared so I was

1204
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:01,830
breathless you know I I was so excited

1205
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:05,910
so she doesn't have a computer or didn't

1206
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:07,800
back then so we got on my computer and I

1207
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,110
kind of googled the cemetery I found all

1208
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:11,760
this stuff out I'm going to find out

1209
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:15,630
it's haunted by and I quote sinister men

1210
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:19,760
and black black vehicles a black dog

1211
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:23,280
orbs that disappear or appear at dusk

1212
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:26,640
and a couple who float over the

1213
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,250
headstones holding hands well you know

1214
00:53:32,690 --> 00:53:30,960
interesting that you bring out the date

1215
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:32,700
that it's that the cemetery is haunted

1216
00:53:37,099 --> 00:53:33,450
by

1217
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:37,109
of you when we're taking a break I'll

1218
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:38,940
run some things by both of you since

1219
00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:40,290
I've had encounters has been in black

1220
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:42,839
I've done research on men in black and

1221
00:53:48,980 --> 00:53:46,440
they seem to be thousands of years old a

1222
00:53:50,420 --> 00:53:48,990
lot of these encounters of men and black

1223
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:50,430
they've been talked about in several

1224
00:53:54,140 --> 00:53:51,570
areas they've been talked about

1225
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,150
biblically they've been talked about in

1226
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:56,160
many other I mean it's not really that

1227
00:54:01,819 --> 00:53:58,890
much of a modern phenomenon even though

1228
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:01,829
we do see them and as I said before you

1229
00:54:07,310 --> 00:54:04,980
know you know or perhaps your commute

1230
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:07,320
you have this complex feeling whatever

1231
00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:09,900
you see a man in black for some reason

1232
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,369
they strike you as out of the ordinary

1233
00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:15,119
something that sticks out like a sore

1234
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:17,550
thumb it doesn't belong there and you're

1235
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,530
thinking what is that doing there is the

1236
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:22,020
man just standing there dressed nicely

1237
00:54:26,450 --> 00:54:24,810
or is it something else and it gives you

1238
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:26,460
this feeling of dread

1239
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:29,790
it's a strange unexplainable feeling of

1240
00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:32,010
anyone's experienced an encounter with a

1241
00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:34,619
man in black a shadowy figure perhaps

1242
00:54:37,819 --> 00:54:36,630
with a cloak or in a hat like to hear

1243
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:37,829
from you five oh three four one seven

1244
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:39,990
nine five nine five or one eight seven

1245
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:41,609
seven seven three three one oh one one

1246
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:42,690
will be back keep it here on black

1247
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,010
ground zero FM news 101 kxl got an

1248
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:50,400
opinion call kxl now five oh three four

1249
00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:53,730
one seven nine kxl or eight seven seven

1250
00:55:04,650 --> 00:55:02,340
everyone is in on the secrets and big

1251
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:04,660
things are being planned call Klein

1252
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:13,410
so coming up on ground zero this Friday

1253
00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:14,650
we're gonna have David journalist doing

1254
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:15,880
the news again and we're gonna do

1255
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:18,010
reversals on the news there was

1256
00:55:23,730 --> 00:55:21,910
something didn't really that dr. Burgess

1257
00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:23,740
had called to tell me about David John

1258
00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:26,260
Oates and he went to but get together

1259
00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:29,500
that was there in West Linn and I know a

1260
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:32,140
number of people who went because he

1261
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:35,410
reported to me that it happened but one

1262
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:37,510
of the discussions that went on during

1263
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:42,640
his free seminar was the idea of a

1264
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:45,520
career opportunity with reverse speech

1265
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:48,490
which I thought was interesting because

1266
00:55:54,030 --> 00:55:51,820
he had told me that with this new deal

1267
00:55:56,250 --> 00:55:54,040
that they were making in London they

1268
00:55:58,140 --> 00:55:56,260
would have all kinds of work available

1269
00:56:01,050 --> 00:55:58,150
for people who want to become trainers

1270
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:01,060
or at least to reverse speech analysts

1271
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:04,330
and I thought okay that'd be fine you

1272
00:56:08,610 --> 00:56:06,070
know maybe just a few bucks here and

1273
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:08,620
there or or maybe something like that

1274
00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:12,190
but no no no no this is something where

1275
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:14,320
the money is good because there's gonna

1276
00:56:23,070 --> 00:56:18,640
be a lot of stuff that there's a lot of

1277
00:56:26,310 --> 00:56:23,080
stuff going on where you can make from

1278
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:26,320
what I heard depending and I don't know

1279
00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:27,580
maybe Davey will have to tell us this

1280
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:29,950
when it comes on but you could make

1281
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:32,230
close to if not more than a hundred

1282
00:56:38,490 --> 00:56:35,650
dollars an hour doing this reverse

1283
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:38,500
speech analyzing and you become a

1284
00:56:43,770 --> 00:56:40,030
reverse be challenged the only thing is

1285
00:56:47,490 --> 00:56:43,780
though is that you have to go to his

1286
00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:47,500
yeah you have to learn from him and if

1287
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:49,000
you're willing to put in the time and

1288
00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:51,730
the effort and the investment you

1289
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:54,220
actually can learn how to do the reverse

1290
00:57:00,510 --> 00:56:58,000
speech do do reverse speech analyzing

1291
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:00,520
and that would be great because then you

1292
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:03,790
could be an an analysis you do analysis

1293
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:06,430
reverse speech and get paid a lot of

1294
00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:08,830
money to do it he told me that there are

1295
00:57:13,710 --> 00:57:12,940
a lot of opportunities available and he

1296
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:13,720
will tell you more

1297
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:15,310
that and I want to just make sure that

1298
00:57:20,190 --> 00:57:18,490
it's clear that David Joe David Joe

1299
00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:20,200
notes will be on again Friday and you

1300
00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:22,150
can ask them about that or you can go to

1301
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:25,180
reverse speech comm reverse speech comm

1302
00:57:27,870 --> 00:57:26,290
is the place to go to find out more

1303
00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:27,880
about the opportunities that are

1304
00:57:32,070 --> 00:57:29,740
available and you can also hear about

1305
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:32,080
the seminars that he's having he's here

1306
00:57:36,089 --> 00:57:33,580
in Portland for a long time he's been

1307
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:36,099
doing seminars and his information is

1308
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:37,480
available right now at reverse speech

1309
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,030
comm find out how you can get a career

1310
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:41,920
in this because look I can think of

1311
00:57:46,589 --> 00:57:43,810
worse things to do than listen to

1312
00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:46,599
reverse speech and analyze it so he has

1313
00:57:50,910 --> 00:57:48,790
some career opportunities available with

1314
00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:50,920
all this new stuff this movie that's

1315
00:57:55,380 --> 00:57:52,780
coming out this documentary all this

1316
00:57:57,930 --> 00:57:55,390
stuff he needs these people available to

1317
00:58:00,000 --> 00:57:57,940
be analysts you can call tonight five oh

1318
00:58:02,190 --> 00:58:00,010
three four one seven nine five nine five

1319
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:02,200
that's nine kxl or one eight seven seven

1320
00:58:06,030 --> 00:58:04,810
seven three three one oh one one tonight

1321
00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:06,040
we're talking about the men in black

1322
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:10,840
have you seen a man dressed in black no

1323
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:13,630
eyebrows bald with a hat some people

1324
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:16,030
call him black hat man we know him as

1325
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:17,890
the MIB YZ tonight we talk more about

1326
00:58:23,890 --> 00:58:21,849
these strange people coming up on Ground

1327
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:23,900
Zero don't go away

1328
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:26,770
i'm craig lewis so this is ground zero

1329
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,599
so now we talk about the men in black

1330
00:58:36,279 --> 00:58:31,760
what are they who are they wonder what

1331
00:58:37,660 --> 00:58:36,289
is their purpose today we're taking your

1332
00:58:40,210 --> 00:58:37,670
calls at five oh three four one seven

1333
00:58:43,779 --> 00:58:40,220
nine five nine five that's nine kxl or

1334
00:58:45,460 --> 00:58:43,789
one in seven seven seven three three 101

1335
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:45,470
once we discussed the men in black

1336
00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:47,690
they're nothing like what you see in the

1337
00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:50,390
movie MIT that's kind of a comic relief

1338
00:58:53,789 --> 00:58:51,950
thing most the time these guys are

1339
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:53,799
pretty sinister and pretty scary

1340
00:58:57,549 --> 00:58:55,910
selectivity green Beckley's with us and

1341
00:58:58,599 --> 00:58:57,559
also Claudia Cunningham to talk more

1342
00:59:02,650 --> 00:58:58,609
about the MIB

1343
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:02,660
and I just wanted to ask Timothy you

1344
00:59:06,130 --> 00:59:04,089
know you've written books for 30 years

1345
00:59:08,529 --> 00:59:06,140
you know what's the difference between

1346
00:59:10,569 --> 00:59:08,539
in fact somebody joked in the in the in

1347
00:59:13,299 --> 00:59:10,579
the in my facebook saying some guy in an

1348
00:59:15,010 --> 00:59:13,309
overcoat must be an MIB what what makes

1349
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:15,020
an MIB different what makes them stick

1350
00:59:23,319 --> 00:59:16,730
out and what are we looking at when we

1351
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:23,329
see a typical man in black are you there

1352
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:28,390
Timothy Timothy hello are you there

1353
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:31,760
Claudia are you there I'm here I don't

1354
00:59:34,210 --> 00:59:32,720
know what happened to Timothy we're

1355
00:59:37,539 --> 00:59:34,220
gonna have to find out what happened to

1356
00:59:39,549 --> 00:59:37,549
Tim we'll just out call him right back

1357
00:59:40,809 --> 00:59:39,559
but anyway I mean when you when you saw

1358
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:40,819
your man in black what made him

1359
00:59:44,859 --> 00:59:42,770
different I mean you know when you see

1360
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:44,869
somebody on the street and he looks out

1361
00:59:49,809 --> 00:59:46,900
of place what made him different for you

1362
00:59:52,089 --> 00:59:49,819
well this happened a couple months after

1363
00:59:54,670 --> 00:59:52,099
this thing with my girlfriend happened

1364
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:54,680
and it was on my mind a lot that's all I

1365
01:00:00,609 --> 00:59:57,920
could think about and I guess I in my I

1366
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:00,619
guess I needed a confirmation that this

1367
01:00:05,620 --> 01:00:03,890
really happened and so one day I was

1368
01:00:07,779 --> 01:00:05,630
over to the shopping center I had my

1369
01:00:09,279 --> 01:00:07,789
mother in the car with me and we pulled

1370
01:00:11,410 --> 01:00:09,289
up in front of one of the dollar stores

1371
01:00:13,870 --> 01:00:11,420
and you know I left her in the car went

1372
01:00:16,660 --> 01:00:13,880
in got my purchase and came back and I

1373
01:00:21,010 --> 01:00:16,670
started the car up and there was I

1374
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:21,020
noticed a big black SUV to the right of

1375
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:22,609
where we were parked and I joked to my

1376
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,079
mother I said hey maybe that's one of

1377
01:00:29,650 --> 01:00:26,240
those guys at Linda's so we kind of

1378
01:00:31,450 --> 01:00:29,660
chuckled I no longer I just I just got

1379
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:31,460
the words out of my mouth and from in

1380
01:00:37,540 --> 01:00:35,119
back of this black SUV came this little

1381
01:00:39,220 --> 01:00:37,550
man and they stopped right out

1382
01:00:41,830 --> 01:00:39,230
where my mother was sitting and he

1383
01:00:44,740 --> 01:00:41,840
literally bent over and like peeked in

1384
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,750
the window and I thought you know the he

1385
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:46,640
had a hat on like John Lennon were in

1386
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:50,690
the 60s it was like a black visor black

1387
01:00:57,610 --> 01:00:55,610
cap black like I said before brand-new

1388
01:00:59,860 --> 01:00:57,620
black outfit black shirt black

1389
01:01:03,280 --> 01:00:59,870
everything was black black sunglasses

1390
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:03,290
and he stepped up on the curb and he

1391
01:01:09,730 --> 01:01:06,770
just turned around and took his glasses

1392
01:01:12,580 --> 01:01:09,740
down and kind of looked at me and the

1393
01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:12,590
creepy smile it was not right you know

1394
01:01:17,890 --> 01:01:14,390
how like you said you just something is

1395
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:17,900
not right about this guy right and then

1396
01:01:21,370 --> 01:01:19,370
I thought well maybe maybe he's a

1397
01:01:23,110 --> 01:01:21,380
chauffeur maybe there's a limo parked

1398
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:23,120
you know somewhere but there was nothing

1399
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:26,510
there he really stood out he didn't

1400
01:01:30,010 --> 01:01:27,950
belong there there was actually a movie

1401
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:30,020
that I saw I don't know if you've ever

1402
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:31,610
seen had Betty Davidson and Oliver Reed

1403
01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:34,790
called burnt offerings and I missed that

1404
01:01:38,650 --> 01:01:37,280
one there in that film in in the

1405
01:01:41,740 --> 01:01:38,660
creepiest thing ever they have this

1406
01:01:44,290 --> 01:01:41,750
hearse that goes through the strange

1407
01:01:46,330 --> 01:01:44,300
hearse that comes driving by and the guy

1408
01:01:48,970 --> 01:01:46,340
who drives the hearse is this thin wiry

1409
01:01:50,890 --> 01:01:48,980
pale man with these glasses these black

1410
01:01:53,020 --> 01:01:50,900
glasses and he looks like a hearse

1411
01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:53,030
driver and he comes in and Betty Davis

1412
01:01:57,700 --> 01:01:55,790
is screaming in agony she's in pain

1413
01:01:59,410 --> 01:01:57,710
because she's sick and he turns out to

1414
01:02:01,000 --> 01:01:59,420
be like a mortician and he takes this

1415
01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:01,010
casket and throws it at her and kills

1416
01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:02,870
her and it's just a really frightening

1417
01:02:07,210 --> 01:02:04,670
and it's like the the tall man a

1418
01:02:10,450 --> 01:02:07,220
phantasm is Timothy I mentioned that

1419
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:10,460
these these men and black I mean they

1420
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:13,310
just don't look like they belong in in

1421
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:16,910
the scenery and I mean when people die

1422
01:02:21,010 --> 01:02:19,130
have the sketch that I put on the

1423
01:02:23,770 --> 01:02:21,020
website doesn't do justice to what I saw

1424
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:23,780
this guy didn't I mean I'll tell you

1425
01:02:28,810 --> 01:02:27,170
this okay I have and I and I and I can't

1426
01:02:30,850 --> 01:02:28,820
explain why maybe some people can relate

1427
01:02:34,210 --> 01:02:30,860
to this have you ever seen somebody

1428
01:02:37,810 --> 01:02:34,220
who's put a nylon stocking over their

1429
01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:37,820
head and when they put a nylon stocking

1430
01:02:43,180 --> 01:02:41,870
over their head they lose all definition

1431
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:43,190
of the face because it's crunches it

1432
01:02:47,950 --> 01:02:45,650
together and pulls it apart that's what

1433
01:02:50,140 --> 01:02:47,960
this guy looked like he was I mean he

1434
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:50,150
didn't look right he didn't look like he

1435
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:50,930
was four

1436
01:02:55,930 --> 01:02:52,880
well he didn't have any detail to his

1437
01:02:58,510 --> 01:02:55,940
face really he had no eyebrows he was

1438
01:03:00,490 --> 01:02:58,520
bald he had this hat his black hat he

1439
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,500
had an overcoat on no he didn't look

1440
01:03:03,730 --> 01:03:02,000
like a guy that was cold in fact that

1441
01:03:04,750 --> 01:03:03,740
day was a nice day wasn't a bad day

1442
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:04,760
wasn't cold at all

1443
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,470
he didn't look like a cold man in the

1444
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:08,720
wintertime walking the streets he looked

1445
01:03:14,140 --> 01:03:11,359
like a guy with a nylon stocking over

1446
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:14,150
his head wearing a hat and he and he

1447
01:03:17,980 --> 01:03:16,250
gave me this look like he didn't know

1448
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,990
what what you know he didn't know what I

1449
01:03:21,579 --> 01:03:19,760
was I said hello - he looked at me like

1450
01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:21,589
what did you say to me and then I turned

1451
01:03:24,490 --> 01:03:23,059
around I went to snap a picture I'm good

1452
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,500
and get him on camera that doesn't mean

1453
01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:26,240
and somebody asked the question no you

1454
01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:28,940
can take pictures of these guys I didn't

1455
01:03:32,260 --> 01:03:30,200
get a picture of the guy so I wondered

1456
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:32,270
what was going on I followed I didn't

1457
01:03:37,180 --> 01:03:34,690
want to stalk him but I certainly think

1458
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:37,190
that I mean he disappeared he ducked out

1459
01:03:40,180 --> 01:03:38,329
out of the way because I think he knew

1460
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:40,190
that I was following him but it just

1461
01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:42,170
seemed to me that the circumstances and

1462
01:03:46,059 --> 01:03:44,329
the synchronicities that happened on

1463
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:46,069
that night the night that I collapsed

1464
01:03:52,359 --> 01:03:48,530
while I was on the air the idea that

1465
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:52,369
I've been in I've been in I've seen men

1466
01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:55,010
in black before show up especially when

1467
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:58,880
it comes to UFO or flying saucer or or

1468
01:04:04,510 --> 01:04:01,520
anything like that they have some sort

1469
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:04,520
of a organization that backs them up or

1470
01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:05,930
they're doing this on there and they

1471
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:07,160
think that they're born this way to be

1472
01:04:11,770 --> 01:04:08,650
this way or whatever I interviewed a guy

1473
01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:11,780
actually I met him at the Rialto bar

1474
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:13,160
when I first moved to Portland called

1475
01:04:18,819 --> 01:04:15,920
himself mr. n I interviewed him he

1476
01:04:21,789 --> 01:04:18,829
claimed to be a man in black he was he

1477
01:04:24,250 --> 01:04:21,799
was another bald lookin strange guy with

1478
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:24,260
weird features he had spikes in his lips

1479
01:04:29,319 --> 01:04:26,240
he looked weird as heck who's wearing

1480
01:04:31,690 --> 01:04:29,329
black my husband haha well he just

1481
01:04:34,569 --> 01:04:31,700
seemed to be peculiar and he and he

1482
01:04:37,329 --> 01:04:34,579
actually said that the actually this was

1483
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:37,339
prior to 9/11 he actually said that the

1484
01:04:41,710 --> 01:04:39,530
men in black were gathering to bring us

1485
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:41,720
into our next event that was going to

1486
01:04:46,569 --> 01:04:44,690
thrust us into our new thought process

1487
01:04:48,430 --> 01:04:46,579
and it would involve the deaths of many

1488
01:04:50,589 --> 01:04:48,440
thousands of people in a major city and

1489
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:50,599
he said that this is what was going to

1490
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:53,390
happen and and I have the interview in

1491
01:04:57,220 --> 01:04:56,000
my in my vault somewhere but people who

1492
01:04:58,450 --> 01:04:57,230
are fans of the show who have been

1493
01:05:00,579 --> 01:04:58,460
listening to my show for as many years

1494
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:00,589
as they have been listening know that I

1495
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:02,510
interviewed a gentleman on the show that

1496
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:04,730
stated for the record that he was a

1497
01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:07,310
in black he worked he worked as a man in

1498
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:09,260
black he says he had no organization

1499
01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:10,970
behind him he said it was like an

1500
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:13,280
octopus with no head he said you cut off

1501
01:05:17,530 --> 01:05:14,690
one tentacle there's another person

1502
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:17,540
ready to do the job they move about they

1503
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:19,010
move about and doing what they do

1504
01:05:24,849 --> 01:05:22,010
without any thought of how it might harm

1505
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:24,859
or otherwise help somebody they do what

1506
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:26,710
needs to be done and that is their job

1507
01:05:31,990 --> 01:05:29,330
and it's exactly what you see we what's

1508
01:05:34,060 --> 01:05:32,000
that they seem to appear a lot of times

1509
01:05:36,820 --> 01:05:34,070
before a tragedy like the Silver Bridge

1510
01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:36,830
and the Mothman yeah see by John keel

1511
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,320
yes exactly did they show up they show

1512
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:40,880
up before tragedies they show up after

1513
01:05:46,690 --> 01:05:44,690
tragedies you know it's kind of like the

1514
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:46,700
the whole story of the agents from the

1515
01:05:53,050 --> 01:05:49,609
matrix or the the observers from fringe

1516
01:05:55,030 --> 01:05:53,060
or The Adjustment Bureau that was

1517
01:05:58,690 --> 01:05:55,040
another movie that was dealing in Dark

1518
01:06:01,630 --> 01:05:58,700
City where it has to do with keeping the

1519
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:01,640
timeline intact or keeping the the

1520
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:02,930
motions of whatever it is they're

1521
01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:04,490
supposed to happen intact as if they

1522
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:07,070
know simultaneously both past present

1523
01:06:11,859 --> 01:06:09,050
and future what's supposed to happen and

1524
01:06:13,030 --> 01:06:11,869
they make it happen in it if it doesn't

1525
01:06:14,859 --> 01:06:13,040
happen the way it's supposed to they

1526
01:06:17,849 --> 01:06:14,869
give it that push or they give it that

1527
01:06:20,770 --> 01:06:17,859
shove and and that's why they appear so

1528
01:06:22,180 --> 01:06:20,780
they always show up in times where they

1529
01:06:24,550 --> 01:06:22,190
tell you you didn't see this or you

1530
01:06:28,330 --> 01:06:24,560
weren't a part of this or and it just

1531
01:06:30,010 --> 01:06:28,340
seems to be you know kind of odd the way

1532
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:30,020
they just pop up out of nowhere

1533
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:31,609
let's bring Timothy back I know we lost

1534
01:06:35,260 --> 01:06:33,560
Timothy Timothy when we're talking about

1535
01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:35,270
what we're talking about em IDs and I

1536
01:06:38,770 --> 01:06:36,830
was talking with Claudia about this

1537
01:06:40,780 --> 01:06:38,780
we're talk about MIB is what sets them

1538
01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:40,790
apart why is it what what can we do to

1539
01:06:44,380 --> 01:06:42,830
say okay we're looking at an MIB this is

1540
01:06:46,359 --> 01:06:44,390
a man in black other than some guy who's

1541
01:06:48,970 --> 01:06:46,369
just wearing a coat and a tie and just I

1542
01:06:51,580 --> 01:06:48,980
guess was miss the bus for church how

1543
01:06:55,150 --> 01:06:51,590
can we tell the difference what church

1544
01:06:58,450 --> 01:06:55,160
would they go well I am yeah you know

1545
01:07:00,609 --> 01:06:58,460
well the one thing I think it stands out

1546
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:00,619
usually is they do something odd that

1547
01:07:07,030 --> 01:07:02,570
just doesn't fit the mold of a normal

1548
01:07:10,420 --> 01:07:07,040
person like I remember one time there

1549
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:10,430
was a doctor who had been investigating

1550
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:15,410
a UFO case he'd actually had the witness

1551
01:07:21,250 --> 01:07:18,710
in his house I think today previous

1552
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:21,260
and this he saw this man he came up the

1553
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:25,280
driveway stood by the door and and the

1554
01:07:29,950 --> 01:07:26,690
doctor I guess he had his you know

1555
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,960
offices in his house and so forth and he

1556
01:07:32,770 --> 01:07:31,280
went to the door because he's figured

1557
01:07:34,690 --> 01:07:32,780
why isn't a guy knocking or something

1558
01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:34,700
and he's just standing there very very

1559
01:07:38,740 --> 01:07:37,310
rigid well he thought obviously the guy

1560
01:07:40,210 --> 01:07:38,750
must be sick or something wrong with it

1561
01:07:44,010 --> 01:07:40,220
so it doesn't well coming to the office

1562
01:07:47,410 --> 01:07:44,020
and sat down well the guy stood like

1563
01:07:50,349 --> 01:07:47,420
just comatose up against the in the wall

1564
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:50,359
never said anything in the beginning and

1565
01:07:56,220 --> 01:07:53,119
then he started just repeating that he

1566
01:07:58,930 --> 01:07:56,230
wanted to know about this particular UFO

1567
01:08:02,170 --> 01:07:58,940
event to give to turn over his files and

1568
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:02,180
so forth but he was odd looking I mean

1569
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:04,490
he had it look like the fellow had was

1570
01:08:08,859 --> 01:08:07,280
very pale and he had like lipstick on

1571
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:08,869
which wouldn't be that unusual in this

1572
01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:10,970
day and age I suppose but then it was

1573
01:08:15,999 --> 01:08:12,940
like he couldn't draw a straight line

1574
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:16,009
it's something right like looking like

1575
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:17,810
Clarabel the clown or something like

1576
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,250
that well it was funny because I was

1577
01:08:22,570 --> 01:08:20,960
telling Claudia about this this man in

1578
01:08:24,690 --> 01:08:22,580
black I saw he looked like he was

1579
01:08:27,670 --> 01:08:24,700
wearing a nylon stocking over his head

1580
01:08:29,470 --> 01:08:27,680
yet his definition was off something was

1581
01:08:32,410 --> 01:08:29,480
wrong about him he looked like yeah and

1582
01:08:35,769 --> 01:08:32,420
and they I remember one time the guy was

1583
01:08:38,140 --> 01:08:35,779
eating like was offered some jello or

1584
01:08:40,809 --> 01:08:38,150
something to eat but didn't sell any and

1585
01:08:42,999 --> 01:08:40,819
seemed to know how to eat it I mean just

1586
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,009
things that just don't seem to fit the

1587
01:08:48,130 --> 01:08:45,440
the pattern but of course to really

1588
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:48,140
where things would be is when they come

1589
01:08:53,229 --> 01:08:50,210
and go and we'll I mean you know this

1590
01:08:55,809 --> 01:08:53,239
all started back for the record well of

1591
01:08:57,670 --> 01:08:55,819
course Maury island there also a coast

1592
01:08:58,930 --> 01:08:57,680
of Washington State and that was just

1593
01:09:01,539 --> 01:08:58,940
around the time of the Kenneth Arnold

1594
01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:01,549
that you know signing back in 1947 right

1595
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:04,310
I'll these do two fishermen where we're

1596
01:09:07,809 --> 01:09:05,690
out on their boat with their dog and

1597
01:09:09,690 --> 01:09:07,819
this UFO came over in the bottom of the

1598
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:09,700
craft opened up and it looked like it

1599
01:09:15,789 --> 01:09:14,210
some material liquid slag or metal

1600
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:15,799
molten metal or someone came out and

1601
01:09:22,420 --> 01:09:19,250
fell all over the the river there and

1602
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:22,430
they killed the dog you know and injured

1603
01:09:27,550 --> 01:09:24,710
the the wrecked boat I guess on them you

1604
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:27,560
know and in fact Kenneth Arnold who was

1605
01:09:32,170 --> 01:09:29,810
the first UFO Sider he joined the clear

1606
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:32,180
term flying saucer I

1607
01:09:35,580 --> 01:09:34,400
he went to investigate it and you know

1608
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:35,590
while he was in the hotel room

1609
01:09:40,570 --> 01:09:38,210
interviewing the witnesses apparently

1610
01:09:42,220 --> 01:09:40,580
there was a newspaper reporter who knew

1611
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:42,230
exactly what was going on and what was

1612
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:44,990
being said in the hotel room there was

1613
01:09:48,580 --> 01:09:47,270
like you know an invisible intruder or

1614
01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:48,590
something like that

1615
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:52,640
Alba Kate bender who ray Barker wrote

1616
01:09:56,410 --> 01:09:54,110
the of the book they knew too much about

1617
01:09:58,510 --> 01:09:56,420
flying saucers well that was the first

1618
01:10:02,130 --> 01:09:58,520
really inkling to the public about any

1619
01:10:06,130 --> 01:10:02,140
of this the book came out in 1955 or

1620
01:10:08,260 --> 01:10:06,140
1956 and it was an instant hit and the

1621
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:08,270
Barker told about the silencing of this

1622
01:10:12,970 --> 01:10:11,450
fellow Albert a bender advocate bender

1623
01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:12,980
ran the International Flying Saucer

1624
01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:15,500
Bureau at a Bridgeport to Connecticut

1625
01:10:21,580 --> 01:10:18,680
and he put out a fairly well received

1626
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:21,590
UFO publication called I think it's

1627
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,930
called space review mm-hmm and then it

1628
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:25,760
he reported these sightings of the

1629
01:10:29,530 --> 01:10:27,290
members of the organization I think he

1630
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:29,540
had about 2,500 members this would have

1631
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:32,020
been the first UFO a group maybe around

1632
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:36,530
1953 year or so mmm apparently he

1633
01:10:42,580 --> 01:10:39,410
stumbled upon the secret to the origin

1634
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:42,590
of where flying saucers come from these

1635
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:46,330
three men materialized inside his

1636
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,480
bedroom right and they were they were

1637
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:52,640
didn't respected you know we just been

1638
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:54,050
describing the men in black with the

1639
01:11:01,260 --> 01:10:57,770
hats and so forth in the dark trench

1640
01:11:04,330 --> 01:11:01,270
coats and they warned him telepathically

1641
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:04,340
to give up his investigation into the

1642
01:11:09,820 --> 01:11:07,610
flying saucers or that something serious

1643
01:11:12,850 --> 01:11:09,830
would happen to him or members of his

1644
01:11:17,380 --> 01:11:12,860
family ring and they mentioned the name

1645
01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:17,390
of a researcher who lived in Australia

1646
01:11:21,370 --> 01:11:20,120
bender had a this international flying

1647
01:11:23,710 --> 01:11:21,380
saucer beYOU had a worldwide

1648
01:11:26,170 --> 01:11:23,720
organization and he had branches all

1649
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:26,180
over the world he had one in Australia

1650
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:29,810
that was run by a John Stewart now in my

1651
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:33,110
book cursive Leah men and black

1652
01:11:38,890 --> 01:11:36,410
UFO terrorists I printed the entire

1653
01:11:41,950 --> 01:11:38,900
story the manuscript that Jon Stewart

1654
01:11:45,970 --> 01:11:41,960
did and he tells about how his group was

1655
01:11:47,650 --> 01:11:45,980
investigating a UFO waves over

1656
01:11:49,390 --> 01:11:47,660
Sydney Australia at the time and they

1657
01:11:51,490 --> 01:11:49,400
were having some low-level sightings

1658
01:11:53,290 --> 01:11:51,500
some of them in fact right at you know

1659
01:11:55,410 --> 01:11:53,300
High Noon where hundreds of people were

1660
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:55,420
observing these things on the street

1661
01:11:59,440 --> 01:11:57,650
anyway they had the same thing that they

1662
01:12:02,020 --> 01:11:59,450
had these invisible beings that would

1663
01:12:04,570 --> 01:12:02,030
materialize in there in their

1664
01:12:08,290 --> 01:12:04,580
headquarters and one of them was this

1665
01:12:10,330 --> 01:12:08,300
really terribly smelling the creature I

1666
01:12:13,150 --> 01:12:10,340
mean what wasn't men in black in the

1667
01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:13,160
sense that we think about it and there

1668
01:12:16,750 --> 01:12:14,840
was a woman who was involved she was

1669
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:16,760
like vice-president of the group and she

1670
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:20,239
was actually molested by this creature

1671
01:12:25,060 --> 01:12:22,370
that would come into their her apartment

1672
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:25,070
at night finally they closed down the

1673
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:27,770
organization and the last anyone had

1674
01:12:34,770 --> 01:12:31,040
heard of the investigator is that he was

1675
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:34,780
standing on the top of a escalator in a

1676
01:12:41,290 --> 01:12:38,450
department store there and someone or

1677
01:12:42,820 --> 01:12:41,300
something totally unseen apparently came

1678
01:12:45,850 --> 01:12:42,830
up behind him gave him a shoving with

1679
01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:45,860
the flying down the escalator headfirst

1680
01:12:51,550 --> 01:12:47,540
or something like well and of course the

1681
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:51,560
that also John keel had written when the

1682
01:12:57,010 --> 01:12:54,250
Mothman proper the Mothman Prophecies

1683
01:12:59,890 --> 01:12:57,020
were being written he spoke of a woman

1684
01:13:02,830 --> 01:12:59,900
that lived in Point Pleasant who was

1685
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:02,840
actually being harassed by a man in

1686
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:04,730
black and threatening that he would kill

1687
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:07,040
her they were also saying that a number

1688
01:13:12,250 --> 01:13:09,770
of of the men in black would go door to

1689
01:13:15,220 --> 01:13:12,260
door during this time offering them

1690
01:13:16,450 --> 01:13:15,230
these pills and when they had the pills

1691
01:13:18,729 --> 01:13:16,460
analyzed they found out they were for

1692
01:13:20,290 --> 01:13:18,739
urinary tract infections and they were

1693
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:20,300
giving these pills for urinary tract

1694
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:22,400
infections to the the two people in in

1695
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:24,890
Point Pleasant and I just felt that it

1696
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:26,480
was just bizarre how these men in black

1697
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,120
would do these crazy antics during this

1698
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:31,280
whole time of the Mothman sightings well

1699
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:34,130
see that I think if people I've come to

1700
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:36,170
the conclusion after all these years is

1701
01:13:43,420 --> 01:13:40,130
that most of the UFO phenomena is a

1702
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:43,430
paranormal in nature we are not per se

1703
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:44,960
dealing with visitors from other planets

1704
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:47,530
now every once in a while there may be a

1705
01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:50,750
spaceship as we think of it coming you

1706
01:13:56,979 --> 01:13:53,630
know coming there through this way but

1707
01:13:58,209 --> 01:13:56,989
these are beings whoever they may be and

1708
01:14:00,120 --> 01:13:58,219
I don't even think that they're

1709
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:00,130
necessarily beings

1710
01:14:09,810 --> 01:14:03,770
as we think of living you know creatures

1711
01:14:11,950 --> 01:14:09,820
there are some sort of plasmatic

1712
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:11,960
intelligence that that's the best way

1713
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,110
that I can describe them and they are

1714
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:17,600
able to actually know these men and

1715
01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:19,489
black I think are kind of their agents

1716
01:14:23,770 --> 01:14:21,340
and these are people these are

1717
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:23,780
earthlings as far as I can detect who

1718
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:27,770
have actually mentally been taken over

1719
01:14:33,879 --> 01:14:31,250
they've kind of had the souls sucked at

1720
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:33,889
that month your your your your very

1721
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:35,449
great and I'll tell you why he's the man

1722
01:14:38,620 --> 01:14:37,040
in black that allegedly told me he was a

1723
01:14:41,229 --> 01:14:38,630
man in black I interviewed said that he

1724
01:14:42,430 --> 01:14:41,239
felt as though he was called all of a

1725
01:14:43,870 --> 01:14:42,440
sudden one day he woke up and he

1726
01:14:46,570 --> 01:14:43,880
realized that this is what his calling

1727
01:14:49,180 --> 01:14:46,580
was and that somehow something took over

1728
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:49,190
and he renamed himself he called himself

1729
01:14:54,879 --> 01:14:53,120
mr. n and and and that's what he called

1730
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:54,889
himself after that that he that he was a

1731
01:14:59,860 --> 01:14:58,130
normal guy in a book was that I did a

1732
01:15:01,780 --> 01:14:59,870
book called the round trip to hell in a

1733
01:15:04,300 --> 01:15:01,790
flying saucer which is available on

1734
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:04,310
Kindle as well as a night edition and

1735
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:06,489
and we described in there some of these

1736
01:15:12,220 --> 01:15:10,370
people and the shenanigans and and how

1737
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:12,230
they they just seemed to have actually

1738
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:15,440
had their souls taken away from them and

1739
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,110
maybe maybe even possessed by and we'll

1740
01:15:21,850 --> 01:15:20,000
talk about that coming out to Timothy

1741
01:15:23,290 --> 01:15:21,860
green Beckley and also quality cutting

1742
01:15:25,300 --> 01:15:23,300
hand with a son ground zero tonight

1743
01:15:26,610 --> 01:15:25,310
we'll be back with more keep it here on

1744
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:26,620
ground zero

1745
01:15:32,340 --> 01:15:30,239
run jewelry replied Lewis

1746
01:15:35,070 --> 01:15:32,350
tonight we have Timothy green Beckley

1747
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:35,080
UFO paranormal pioneer and also Claudia

1748
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:36,610
Cunningham with us on the show talking

1749
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:40,090
about the men in black there is a meme

1750
01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:41,920
now going around the internet about

1751
01:15:47,970 --> 01:15:45,340
black hat man and it is literally a man

1752
01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:47,980
in black people have been discussing

1753
01:15:54,180 --> 01:15:52,239
that this black hat man also shows up

1754
01:15:56,970 --> 01:15:54,190
and is in the same realm as the shadow

1755
01:15:59,340 --> 01:15:56,980
people and that people have seen shadowy

1756
01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:59,350
figures in their dreams their nightmares

1757
01:16:02,490 --> 01:16:00,880
they have shown up that people are

1758
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:02,500
dreaming these things they're dreaming

1759
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:05,170
about these men with black hats and

1760
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:08,770
glasses now as I said I saw what

1761
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:10,210
appeared to be a man in black that

1762
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:12,010
people say was just a guy wearing a suit

1763
01:16:17,790 --> 01:16:13,840
and tie and it was cold he was running

1764
01:16:19,410 --> 01:16:17,800
overcoat no we saw well I saw and of

1765
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:19,420
course the person I met with an

1766
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:22,570
appointment saw men in overcoats these

1767
01:16:28,140 --> 01:16:25,360
men we saw having coffee had it had hats

1768
01:16:31,979 --> 01:16:28,150
they had they had hair but the one I saw

1769
01:16:34,650 --> 01:16:31,989
looked like he had no no uh you know

1770
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:34,660
detail on his face it looked just

1771
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:37,440
bizarre he looked like you had a

1772
01:16:41,310 --> 01:16:39,250
stocking over his face

1773
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,320
and I didn't want to stalk him I did

1774
01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:43,120
want to follow him but I certainly know

1775
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:45,640
what I saw and it wasn't some guy just

1776
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:48,640
wearing an overcoat and I was fine but

1777
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:51,910
then that night after her I had I had

1778
01:16:57,570 --> 01:16:54,489
the sighting I collapsed while I was on

1779
01:16:58,890 --> 01:16:57,580
the air and it said it has been said

1780
01:17:01,860 --> 01:16:58,900
that if you come in contact with these

1781
01:17:05,090 --> 01:17:01,870
guys or whatever they can vex you I had

1782
01:17:06,570 --> 01:17:05,100
an encounter with a man in black in

1783
01:17:10,140 --> 01:17:06,580
1995-1996

1784
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:10,150
after my encounter my car was bombed and

1785
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:13,120
it was destroyed literally and that's a

1786
01:17:19,020 --> 01:17:16,719
matter of record and it's it's just been

1787
01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:19,030
the situation men in black seem to come

1788
01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:20,560
around five oh three four one seven nine

1789
01:17:23,810 --> 01:17:22,420
five nine five or wedding seven seven

1790
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:23,820
seven three three 101 one

1791
01:17:33,260 --> 01:17:25,770
tonight talking about the men in black

1792
01:17:35,690 --> 01:17:33,270
of course Saab man in black Saab men in

1793
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:35,700
black that was over there by Sookie's

1794
01:17:43,130 --> 01:17:40,560
bar the south of town hanging out near

1795
01:17:44,780 --> 01:17:43,140
the freeway and he just seemed out of

1796
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:44,790
place didn't seem like you belong there

1797
01:17:47,570 --> 01:17:46,290
that's the trouble with men in black you

1798
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:47,580
see them you're wondering what am I

1799
01:17:52,730 --> 01:17:50,010
looking at and they tend to throw you

1800
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:52,740
off of it you say gosh you know they

1801
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:55,110
just have this countenance of death but

1802
01:17:58,850 --> 01:17:56,730
they look like they're they have no

1803
01:18:01,370 --> 01:17:58,860
detail to their face they they almost

1804
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:01,380
looks pale and skull like some people

1805
01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:04,560
even say alien like because they look

1806
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:06,630
plastic the jaw looks plastic they don't

1807
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:09,690
look real and I guess you'd have to see

1808
01:18:14,420 --> 01:18:11,730
one to understand one because a lot of

1809
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:14,430
people I'm sure probably don't

1810
01:18:17,330 --> 01:18:15,840
understand what they're looking for I

1811
01:18:20,420 --> 01:18:17,340
mean we're not just looking for guys

1812
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:20,430
dressed in black suits and ties we tend

1813
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:22,290
to you know think that this is what it

1814
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:23,910
all is because of the movies and the

1815
01:18:29,420 --> 01:18:26,880
Blues Brothers and and also I I always

1816
01:18:32,300 --> 01:18:29,430
thought you know the the the agents that

1817
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:32,310
they're across between what you see in

1818
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:34,380
dark city and what you saw in the matrix

1819
01:18:39,740 --> 01:18:36,050
wouldn't wouldn't you agree with that

1820
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:39,750
Claudia I would say so

1821
01:18:47,810 --> 01:18:42,570
the one that that I saw you know he

1822
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:47,820
didn't look completely abnormal but just

1823
01:18:52,970 --> 01:18:50,880
his his actions and you know the way he

1824
01:18:54,740 --> 01:18:52,980
just kind of dropped his glasses down to

1825
01:18:56,420 --> 01:18:54,750
the middle of his nose and kind of

1826
01:18:58,850 --> 01:18:56,430
looked at me and kind of gave me a

1827
01:19:00,860 --> 01:18:58,860
creepy smile and it was almost like he

1828
01:19:04,220 --> 01:19:00,870
was saying to me well you wanted to see

1829
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:04,230
one well here I am you know it was it

1830
01:19:07,460 --> 01:19:06,090
was chilling or that smile on their face

1831
01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:07,470
they look like they're about to eat you

1832
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:09,060
you know they're that good on their face

1833
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:10,530
saying you know if that door wasn't

1834
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:12,210
locked I'd be in there right now just

1835
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:16,170
you know eating your brain and I just

1836
01:19:19,850 --> 01:19:18,360
pray that that's the kind of I mean they

1837
01:19:21,140 --> 01:19:19,860
have the look of death they have the

1838
01:19:24,410 --> 01:19:21,150
look of this

1839
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:24,420
you just can't I mean when I met okay

1840
01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:26,250
the one man in black that I met before

1841
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:30,150
my car was bombed actually believe it or

1842
01:19:37,699 --> 01:19:35,130
not came off as he was very he seemed

1843
01:19:40,549 --> 01:19:37,709
like he was from the 1950s

1844
01:19:42,830 --> 01:19:40,559
because he said things like nifty and he

1845
01:19:45,529 --> 01:19:42,840
said things like keen oh that's keen and

1846
01:19:47,779 --> 01:19:45,539
I'm thinking keen you know what you know

1847
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:47,789
that sounds all peachy and he used

1848
01:19:51,259 --> 01:19:50,010
phrases like that and I'm thinking who

1849
01:19:52,850 --> 01:19:51,269
the hell is this guy

1850
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:52,860
and he had a mustache that was kind of

1851
01:19:57,799 --> 01:19:55,050
bizarre too he had a little mustache a

1852
01:19:59,479 --> 01:19:57,809
little thin mustache near his lip it

1853
01:20:01,219 --> 01:19:59,489
wasn't like a big thick one he just had

1854
01:20:03,379 --> 01:20:01,229
this little thin hairy mustache it's

1855
01:20:06,049 --> 01:20:03,389
almost like it was penciled in above his

1856
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:06,059
lip he was just a weird-looking guy well

1857
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,639
well like Tim says the one guy you know

1858
01:20:12,729 --> 01:20:10,320
he had like a like lipstick cuz he had

1859
01:20:17,299 --> 01:20:12,739
no mouth so he had a like paint on a

1860
01:20:19,219 --> 01:20:17,309
lips it's bizarre and I know in one of

1861
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:19,229
the books I think it was John keel again

1862
01:20:23,779 --> 01:20:21,050
might have been the molest man

1863
01:20:26,270 --> 01:20:23,789
prophecies one of these characters

1864
01:20:28,879 --> 01:20:26,280
walked into a luncheonette in order to

1865
01:20:29,959 --> 01:20:28,889
stake and when he came he just stared at

1866
01:20:32,359 --> 01:20:29,969
it he didn't know what to do with the

1867
01:20:34,729 --> 01:20:32,369
utensils so the waitress had to show him

1868
01:20:36,290 --> 01:20:34,739
and another guy tried to drink jello he

1869
01:20:39,259 --> 01:20:36,300
didn't know what it was

1870
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:39,269
so I mean they're really far out well

1871
01:20:43,129 --> 01:20:41,130
it's like whatever they are one of the

1872
01:20:45,290 --> 01:20:43,139
one of the most interesting shows on TV

1873
01:20:49,489 --> 01:20:45,300
right now is Fringe in one of the

1874
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:49,499
observers is named September and he

1875
01:20:53,419 --> 01:20:52,050
actually shows up in one of the episodes

1876
01:20:56,419 --> 01:20:53,429
I can't remember which it is but it's an

1877
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:56,429
episode where an earthquake is about to

1878
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:59,280
happen near a worksite he comes in he

1879
01:21:06,770 --> 01:21:00,719
sits down at his restaurant and he

1880
01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:06,780
orders himself a sandwich it's a roast

1881
01:21:10,429 --> 01:21:08,280
beef sandwich he piles at height with

1882
01:21:13,429 --> 01:21:10,439
roast beef then he piles it with about

1883
01:21:17,239 --> 01:21:13,439
16 jalapeno peppers and then he piles on

1884
01:21:18,949 --> 01:21:17,249
pepper and then he eats the sandwich and

1885
01:21:20,569 --> 01:21:18,959
when they asked him why he does that he

1886
01:21:21,890 --> 01:21:20,579
says I don't have any taste buds I can't

1887
01:21:23,359 --> 01:21:21,900
taste anything so I have to have

1888
01:21:26,689 --> 01:21:23,369
something with flavor and I can't taste

1889
01:21:29,660 --> 01:21:26,699
anything that's the weird stuff about

1890
01:21:32,330 --> 01:21:29,670
these men back there just these outcast

1891
01:21:34,429 --> 01:21:32,340
misfits they'd look like on one hand you

1892
01:21:36,469 --> 01:21:34,439
know you could you know make fun of them

1893
01:21:37,819 --> 01:21:36,479
beat the crap out of but then they also

1894
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:37,829
give you this look like they could kill

1895
01:21:42,910 --> 01:21:40,320
you if you get in the way of what their

1896
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:46,219
okay great Nick what we have here though

1897
01:21:53,330 --> 01:21:50,850
- we have two different things a foul

1898
01:21:56,150 --> 01:21:53,340
we talked about the the men in black but

1899
01:21:59,540 --> 01:21:56,160
they're part of a larger group that I

1900
01:22:03,260 --> 01:21:59,550
would define as the UFO silencers some

1901
01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:03,270
of which could be UF could be government

1902
01:22:08,450 --> 01:22:06,140
agents or foreign agents they could be

1903
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:08,460
representative of representatives of

1904
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:12,050
some secret organization or secret

1905
01:22:17,060 --> 01:22:15,030
society who is trying to prevent people

1906
01:22:19,550 --> 01:22:17,070
from talking about this now

1907
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:19,560
there was a episode a big slap of

1908
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:21,570
sightings of a big wave of sightings

1909
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:24,570
over wanted the Waunakee Reservoir in

1910
01:22:28,750 --> 01:22:27,210
New Jersey back in nineteen around the

1911
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:28,760
same time actually coming thinking about

1912
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:30,930
1965 wow you know you do you know the

1913
01:22:35,210 --> 01:22:33,330
vortex / Waunakee the the the time

1914
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:35,220
vortex at Waunakee you know about that

1915
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,010
well you know I investigated that the

1916
01:22:42,020 --> 01:22:40,320
case before and I wrote it up for fate

1917
01:22:44,090 --> 01:22:42,030
magazine back at the time when it was

1918
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:44,100
happening we did there was an incident

1919
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:45,600
that was reported and I wasn't there

1920
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:47,490
when it happened but supposedly a car

1921
01:22:52,820 --> 01:22:49,980
what was driving out of one of the the

1922
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,830
side roads around the reservoir and it

1923
01:22:56,330 --> 01:22:54,480
disappeared right in front of the the

1924
01:22:58,670 --> 01:22:56,340
witnesses who was following and right

1925
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:58,680
exactly this is pretty real strong right

1926
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,440
okay well yeah what I was going to say

1927
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:03,840
though is that the the sightings got so

1928
01:23:07,610 --> 01:23:05,970
plentiful in that area you know it was

1929
01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:07,620
the police officers and reservoir

1930
01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:09,990
reservoir security guards and all that

1931
01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:12,030
we're seeing this thing and the one UFO

1932
01:23:17,210 --> 01:23:14,450
came right down over the reservoir and

1933
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:17,220
beamed up some kind of raid down on the

1934
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:20,490
ice and put a hole in the in the ice you

1935
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:22,290
know which was quite thick at the time

1936
01:23:27,470 --> 01:23:25,050
and they had actually a meeting a

1937
01:23:29,180 --> 01:23:27,480
town-hall meeting of witnesses and all

1938
01:23:31,220 --> 01:23:29,190
because they were getting a pretty upset

1939
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:31,230
about this you know they didn't know

1940
01:23:34,940 --> 01:23:32,970
whether the UFOs were a hostile nature

1941
01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:34,950
but they certainly didn't seem to be

1942
01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:38,040
overly friendly either now during the

1943
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:39,750
town hall meeting or following the town

1944
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:41,610
hall meeting they they noticed some of

1945
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:44,490
the witnesses including the mayor and

1946
01:23:49,010 --> 01:23:46,110
the Chief of Police noticed that there

1947
01:23:50,630 --> 01:23:49,020
was some strange and odd people there

1948
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:50,640
that were hanging around the this

1949
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:53,250
meeting which was mainly made up of town

1950
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:55,440
residents you know residence that the

1951
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,450
people that had sightings and wanted to

1952
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,040
know what was going on and directly

1953
01:24:03,980 --> 01:24:00,960
concerned them and so forth anyway there

1954
01:24:04,660 --> 01:24:03,990
were these the agents mysterious agents

1955
01:24:07,150 --> 01:24:04,670
that look like

1956
01:24:09,340 --> 01:24:07,160
you know CIA or FBI type seal dressed in

1957
01:24:11,979 --> 01:24:09,350
black and sunglass a little bit hmm

1958
01:24:14,430 --> 01:24:11,989
and at first when they asked for

1959
01:24:16,660 --> 01:24:14,440
identification they pulled out

1960
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:16,670
membership cards belonging to the

1961
01:24:22,209 --> 01:24:19,600
National investigations committee on UFO

1962
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:22,219
not major key house a group which is

1963
01:24:27,820 --> 01:24:24,410
very active at the time and and a lot of

1964
01:24:30,130 --> 01:24:27,830
these were the oh the scientific types

1965
01:24:31,390 --> 01:24:30,140
and I would call them nerds and stuff

1966
01:24:32,979 --> 01:24:31,400
like that you know with their notebooks

1967
01:24:34,780 --> 01:24:32,989
and taking notes and stuff like this

1968
01:24:36,459 --> 01:24:34,790
thinking that they would gain some

1969
01:24:38,770 --> 01:24:36,469
knowledge about the UFO phenomena from

1970
01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:38,780
doing this anyway though there was one

1971
01:24:43,090 --> 01:24:40,910
particular witness who had a very close

1972
01:24:45,850 --> 01:24:43,100
sighting of the object and he was taken

1973
01:24:49,150 --> 01:24:45,860
aside by one of these these agents and

1974
01:24:52,030 --> 01:24:49,160
the guy said you know we prefer it if

1975
01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:52,040
you don't talk about what you've seen

1976
01:24:59,820 --> 01:24:55,310
and as sort of adding a little bit more

1977
01:25:03,040 --> 01:24:59,830
clout to his warning he pushed aside the

1978
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:03,050
black suit jacket that he was wearing

1979
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:05,840
and there was a pistol in the waistband

1980
01:25:11,979 --> 01:25:10,130
of the of the you know the jacket the

1981
01:25:14,890 --> 01:25:11,989
pants he was wearing huh

1982
01:25:18,430 --> 01:25:14,900
so of course obviously for about 35

1983
01:25:20,020 --> 01:25:18,440
years or so the supervision was so

1984
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:20,030
frightened that he just backed off and

1985
01:25:24,700 --> 01:25:21,530
refused to tell anybody about what he

1986
01:25:27,340 --> 01:25:24,710
had seen and I did see a post about this

1987
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:27,350
filing where he started discussing the

1988
01:25:32,020 --> 01:25:29,840
fact that he was actually threatened now

1989
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:32,030
people ask me they say well have anybody

1990
01:25:37,780 --> 01:25:33,650
actually been killed or injured you know

1991
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,790
well maybe yes maybe no it's one of

1992
01:25:43,630 --> 01:25:39,440
these things the dead don't tell no

1993
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:43,640
tales well and in my situation with my

1994
01:25:48,939 --> 01:25:45,920
car it was basically see what had

1995
01:25:52,090 --> 01:25:48,949
happened is when my show first went on

1996
01:25:53,890 --> 01:25:52,100
the air we offered 10 million dollars

1997
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:53,900
for proof of a UFO we bought out an

1998
01:25:58,150 --> 01:25:55,130
insurance policy this is a publicity

1999
01:25:59,770 --> 01:25:58,160
stunt we did it was we spent five

2000
01:26:03,490 --> 01:25:59,780
hundred hundred on a premium down

2001
01:26:05,620 --> 01:26:03,500
payment for a 10 million dollar UFO

2002
01:26:07,780 --> 01:26:05,630
insurance policy that if someone brought

2003
01:26:09,970 --> 01:26:07,790
us a UFO on a flatbed or a flying saucer

2004
01:26:11,770 --> 01:26:09,980
on a flatbed truck or something and they

2005
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:11,780
there was all this criteria that they

2006
01:26:14,650 --> 01:26:13,130
had to meet otherwise they wouldn't get

2007
01:26:16,030 --> 01:26:14,660
the 10 million it was he was almost it

2008
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:16,040
was it was a publicity stunt was almost

2009
01:26:19,670 --> 01:26:17,730
impossible to do this so

2010
01:26:24,020 --> 01:26:19,680
what happens we had a thing on the day

2011
01:26:25,610 --> 01:26:24,030
that the the the swallows will come back

2012
01:26:27,620 --> 01:26:25,620
to Capistrano and the buzzards are

2013
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:27,630
supposed to come back to Ohio we did a

2014
01:26:31,820 --> 01:26:29,280
thing where the UFOs are supposed to

2015
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:31,830
land in Utah and if that UFO lands it

2016
01:26:36,260 --> 01:26:34,290
could mean 10 million dollars for that

2017
01:26:37,970 --> 01:26:36,270
lucky person who is bringing this UFO

2018
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:37,980
but what happened is that what we're

2019
01:26:41,300 --> 01:26:40,080
doing this little bagel social out in

2020
01:26:43,310 --> 01:26:41,310
the middle of the parking lot like

2021
01:26:46,220 --> 01:26:43,320
actually with with another colleague of

2022
01:26:48,350 --> 01:26:46,230
mine made a UFO landing strip it was a

2023
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:48,360
round circle with a big alien headed and

2024
01:26:53,690 --> 01:26:51,570
said UFO on it we were actually we had

2025
01:26:55,190 --> 01:26:53,700
news crews there waiting for the UFOs to

2026
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:55,200
land of course they they just knew it

2027
01:26:59,840 --> 01:26:57,330
was an interesting story at the time we

2028
01:27:01,880 --> 01:26:59,850
were serving bagels and my colleague at

2029
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:01,890
the time said because it was these two

2030
01:27:05,150 --> 01:27:03,330
men standing that they were wearing

2031
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:05,160
black coats they looked strange and out

2032
01:27:08,750 --> 01:27:07,170
of the ordinary and he laughed he says

2033
01:27:10,610 --> 01:27:08,760
hey you guys over there standing by the

2034
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:10,620
bagels you guys look like you need to

2035
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:12,690
cheer up but I have a cup of coffee yeah

2036
01:27:17,090 --> 01:27:14,970
they just stood there stoic didn't do a

2037
01:27:18,050 --> 01:27:17,100
damn thing and he says all come on you

2038
01:27:19,729 --> 01:27:18,060
guys act like you work for the

2039
01:27:23,330 --> 01:27:19,739
government where do you work they said

2040
01:27:26,050 --> 01:27:23,340
both in unison the government and and

2041
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:26,060
it's almost like it was rehearsed and

2042
01:27:32,570 --> 01:27:30,000
what had happened is that afterwards a

2043
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:32,580
guy came up to me he showed me a picture

2044
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:34,110
that looked like an alien that was out

2045
01:27:37,220 --> 01:27:35,370
in the middle of the West Desert I

2046
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:37,230
posted on my website that was the

2047
01:27:40,820 --> 01:27:38,489
biggest mistake I could have done

2048
01:27:43,070 --> 01:27:40,830
because at the time it was something

2049
01:27:45,470 --> 01:27:43,080
that they wanted me to take down I

2050
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:45,480
refused to take down and when I refused

2051
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:47,010
to take it down I got in my car one

2052
01:27:51,890 --> 01:27:48,930
morning I hit the gas and there was a

2053
01:27:55,220 --> 01:27:51,900
magnesium pack on my carburetor that

2054
01:27:57,140 --> 01:27:55,230
ignited because the the gas got into the

2055
01:28:01,640 --> 01:27:57,150
spark plugs ignited the pack and blew

2056
01:28:03,410 --> 01:28:01,650
the hood off the front of my car and it

2057
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:03,420
frightened me and it scared me and I

2058
01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:05,010
just didn't know what to do after that

2059
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:07,560
and I and I have to admit you know I

2060
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:09,090
also had a guy come in who was dressed

2061
01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:11,370
in black who videotaped me and then he

2062
01:28:14,450 --> 01:28:13,080
gave me he said it was for the sittings

2063
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:14,460
with the insurance company so that what

2064
01:28:17,660 --> 01:28:16,050
the insurance company I want a videotape

2065
01:28:19,010 --> 01:28:17,670
this I says well I don't have any

2066
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:19,020
insurance on my car and he said to me he

2067
01:28:23,810 --> 01:28:21,480
says well no this is insurance this is

2068
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:23,820
our insurance for the the apartment

2069
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:25,650
complex and then at the end of the

2070
01:28:29,570 --> 01:28:27,570
videotaping he handed me this tape but

2071
01:28:30,990 --> 01:28:29,580
it was just like this small I never seen

2072
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:31,000
anything like it it was this

2073
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:34,330
tiny little cartridge and I wish I still

2074
01:28:38,430 --> 01:28:36,370
had it because I lost it when I moved

2075
01:28:40,020 --> 01:28:38,440
from Utah to Portland tiny little

2076
01:28:42,180 --> 01:28:40,030
cartridge it he handed to I go what's

2077
01:28:43,650 --> 01:28:42,190
this he goes this is the contents of

2078
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,660
what we just recorded and says I thought

2079
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:45,040
it was for the insurance company he says

2080
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:47,290
no it's for insurance like what kind of

2081
01:28:51,770 --> 01:28:49,090
insurance is insurance that you will

2082
01:28:56,580 --> 01:28:51,780
keep your mouth shut when you're told to

2083
01:28:58,380 --> 01:28:56,590
and I went what and then he took off and

2084
01:29:00,000 --> 01:28:58,390
why did he give you the tape another

2085
01:29:02,370 --> 01:29:00,010
isn't that because he wanted me to he

2086
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:02,380
wanted me he was hoping that somehow I

2087
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:03,850
would find a way I think was just like a

2088
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:05,290
little magnetic tape I think he was

2089
01:29:08,340 --> 01:29:06,850
hoping that I would watch it over again

2090
01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:08,350
or find something you couldn't get

2091
01:29:12,270 --> 01:29:10,300
extracted watch it over and over again

2092
01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:12,280
as I relate the story of why my car blew

2093
01:29:17,370 --> 01:29:15,880
up and why I was being harassed by a man

2094
01:29:19,710 --> 01:29:17,380
because a man showed up at the station

2095
01:29:22,140 --> 01:29:19,720
wearing a black overcoat demanding I

2096
01:29:23,550 --> 01:29:22,150
take it down and at first he wanted to

2097
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:23,560
meet with the program director and talk

2098
01:29:27,210 --> 01:29:25,120
to the program director about some

2099
01:29:30,330 --> 01:29:27,220
possible inflammatory stuff that was

2100
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:30,340
said about one of the talk-show hosts

2101
01:29:34,260 --> 01:29:32,170
and the daughter of the mayor who they

2102
01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:34,270
thought he said that he was just a

2103
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:36,400
strange traces didn't that talk-show

2104
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:38,410
host that came on before you demanded

2105
01:29:42,270 --> 01:29:40,210
the raping of the mayor's daughter and I

2106
01:29:44,220 --> 01:29:42,280
go what are you talking about and in

2107
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:44,230
this war you Clyde Lewis I said yes it's

2108
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:46,000
oh you're the guy with the guy we want

2109
01:29:49,710 --> 01:29:48,250
to see about the West Desert alien photo

2110
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:49,720
and I'm going where do you go from

2111
01:29:54,570 --> 01:29:51,730
raping the mayor's daughter to talking

2112
01:29:55,860 --> 01:29:54,580
about this photo of this alien alleged

2113
01:29:58,530 --> 01:29:55,870
alien that was given to me at this

2114
01:30:00,960 --> 01:29:58,540
gathering it was just the most bizarre

2115
01:30:02,610 --> 01:30:00,970
thing that ever happened in my life and

2116
01:30:05,130 --> 01:30:02,620
then when the car blew up I knew then

2117
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:05,140
and there that I had been been at least

2118
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:07,810
marked by the mi B's or whomever some

2119
01:30:11,810 --> 01:30:10,090
agency telling me to shut my mouth about

2120
01:30:13,860 --> 01:30:11,820
this and come to find out a number of

2121
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:13,870
servicemen who came from Camp Williams

2122
01:30:18,420 --> 01:30:16,450
in their civilian clothes told me that

2123
01:30:20,130 --> 01:30:18,430
what I had what the guy had snapped was

2124
01:30:21,690 --> 01:30:20,140
not an alien he said that it was a

2125
01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:21,700
camouflage they were experimenting with

2126
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:23,560
for the nuke for the Gulf War they were

2127
01:30:26,670 --> 01:30:24,850
to go back in the Gulf and fight the war

2128
01:30:29,220 --> 01:30:26,680
again it was some camouflage it would

2129
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:29,230
render a guy invisible and I kind of

2130
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:30,850
bought the story but I also thought it

2131
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:32,530
was bizarre they that there had to be

2132
01:30:35,610 --> 01:30:34,210
some men in black showing up at my

2133
01:30:38,580 --> 01:30:35,620
doorstep threatening me like this

2134
01:30:41,340 --> 01:30:38,590
telling me not to post the pictures well

2135
01:30:44,979 --> 01:30:41,350
you know I've had a couple of incidents

2136
01:30:47,589 --> 01:30:44,989
where I was threatened by

2137
01:30:49,959 --> 01:30:47,599
these ghouls or whatever they are now I

2138
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:49,969
don't think of them necessarily is in

2139
01:30:54,339 --> 01:30:52,130
terms of you know MIB is wearing a dark

2140
01:30:58,020 --> 01:30:54,349
clothes right you know but these these

2141
01:31:00,220 --> 01:30:58,030
are our people or whoever that have been

2142
01:31:01,540 --> 01:31:00,230
possessed is the best way I guess that

2143
01:31:03,580 --> 01:31:01,550
that's the way I see it because they

2144
01:31:06,009 --> 01:31:03,590
they act too bizarre intimidate we're

2145
01:31:07,629 --> 01:31:06,019
gonna take a break we got a break one

2146
01:31:08,649 --> 01:31:07,639
moment we got a break we'll be back I

2147
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:08,659
know there's a lot of things to talk

2148
01:31:12,959 --> 01:31:10,010
about and get to on the show we got to

2149
01:31:16,089 --> 01:31:12,969
take a break we'll be back with more

2150
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:16,099
from Timothy green tonight on ground

2151
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:19,130
zero and we're very grateful that they

2152
01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:23,840
both both he and our other guests

2153
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:26,719
tonight cloudy cutting have come on the

2154
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:28,010
program we'll be back with more keep it

2155
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:43,690
FM news 101 kxl got an opinion call kxl

2156
01:31:49,390 --> 01:31:46,480
now five oh three four one seven nine

2157
01:31:58,330 --> 01:31:49,400
kxl or eight seven seven seven three

2158
01:32:01,720 --> 01:31:58,340
three 101 one this is not a test it is

2159
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:01,730
the future ground zero with Clyde Lewis

2160
01:32:05,620 --> 01:32:03,650
I know we have a short segment before we

2161
01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:05,630
go to the news but I wanted Timothy to

2162
01:32:08,740 --> 01:32:07,280
continue his story that you were saying

2163
01:32:10,810 --> 01:32:08,750
you're saying something about how you

2164
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:10,820
feel that these men and black for you to

2165
01:32:14,350 --> 01:32:12,410
possess or they're dead or what happened

2166
01:32:17,370 --> 01:32:14,360
what have you you know there is a there

2167
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:17,380
is something called Rephaim which is a

2168
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:21,890
cult term meaning they're not living or

2169
01:32:26,410 --> 01:32:23,450
they're not dead they're just kind of

2170
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:26,420
there and and they're easily programmed

2171
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:28,010
that that seems to be what you're

2172
01:32:33,670 --> 01:32:30,410
referring to well there was this one

2173
01:32:35,950 --> 01:32:33,680
fellow who actually now would call I I

2174
01:32:39,610 --> 01:32:35,960
have a number that I never give out it's

2175
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:39,620
not listed I don't tell anybody where I

2176
01:32:46,330 --> 01:32:44,480
am because I have had death threats it's

2177
01:32:48,070 --> 01:32:46,340
the best way I could describe it now

2178
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:48,080
these were not from these these men and

2179
01:32:53,470 --> 01:32:50,950
all the guys at the Dan Akroyd so or

2180
01:32:55,900 --> 01:32:53,480
these seem to be ones that are really

2181
01:32:57,310 --> 01:32:55,910
even God beyond the the tale now we

2182
01:32:59,140 --> 01:32:57,320
could say well maybe these these are

2183
01:33:00,490 --> 01:32:59,150
just kind of like Lucifer canons of

2184
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:00,500
society out there but I don't know

2185
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:03,110
there's this one fellow and I have his

2186
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:06,050
name I know who he is he would call at

2187
01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:08,090
all hours of the day and night and and

2188
01:33:12,670 --> 01:33:10,880
threaten me to assassinate me and not

2189
01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:12,680
only that but the mayor of New York and

2190
01:33:18,340 --> 01:33:16,100
some gal who had a music show on the

2191
01:33:20,020 --> 01:33:18,350
classic rock station which just isn't

2192
01:33:22,570 --> 01:33:20,030
quite fitted I don't know she had an

2193
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:22,580
interest in UFOs or not and this guy

2194
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:25,280
would would call me and it was like he

2195
01:33:28,570 --> 01:33:27,050
knew what it was like he knew what I was

2196
01:33:31,150 --> 01:33:28,580
doing I mean it was more to it than just

2197
01:33:32,440 --> 01:33:31,160
the the idle threats you know so finally

2198
01:33:33,850 --> 01:33:32,450
I got to the point where I said well I

2199
01:33:36,460 --> 01:33:33,860
got to take some action here because

2200
01:33:38,140 --> 01:33:36,470
this guy's going to maybe you know come

2201
01:33:40,990 --> 01:33:38,150
after me I'm mad you know I'm gonna be

2202
01:33:43,030 --> 01:33:41,000
walking to a dark alley or something

2203
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:43,040
that the night cuz I'm a night type you

2204
01:33:46,570 --> 01:33:44,420
know person and

2205
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:46,580
and I out all hours of the day and night

2206
01:33:51,729 --> 01:33:49,790
sometimes kind of spooky even in New

2207
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:51,739
York you know kind of coming home at

2208
01:33:56,020 --> 01:33:53,090
five o'clock in the morning and it's

2209
01:33:57,609 --> 01:33:56,030
still dark out so you know I'm watching

2210
01:34:00,160 --> 01:33:57,619
my back as they say sometimes I even

2211
01:34:01,570 --> 01:34:00,170
walked towards the off the sidewalk in

2212
01:34:03,990 --> 01:34:01,580
the street there so I don't have to pass

2213
01:34:07,359 --> 01:34:04,000
you know other people I take cautionary

2214
01:34:10,540 --> 01:34:07,369
measures and you know measures of about

2215
01:34:12,850 --> 01:34:10,550
this I'm a got a got a got to keep

2216
01:34:14,530 --> 01:34:12,860
myself safe well you should because you

2217
01:34:17,740 --> 01:34:14,540
know like I got a I got a save the

2218
01:34:19,419 --> 01:34:17,750
universe that means well yeah they think

2219
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:19,429
they're doing it do by eliminating you

2220
01:34:23,109 --> 01:34:21,170
that's the whole problem yeah yeah well

2221
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:23,119
that yeah that's true so anyway he kept

2222
01:34:27,790 --> 01:34:24,650
calling and I got to the point where I

2223
01:34:29,709 --> 01:34:27,800
said well I called the telephone company

2224
01:34:32,109 --> 01:34:29,719
said can you trace the calls and they

2225
01:34:33,820 --> 01:34:32,119
traced it to Grand Central Station

2226
01:34:35,890 --> 01:34:33,830
apparently I don't we saw homeless

2227
01:34:37,930 --> 01:34:35,900
promise person or something you know and

2228
01:34:39,729 --> 01:34:37,940
he's he's stalking they're there and

2229
01:34:42,399 --> 01:34:39,739
they call and not just me but other

2230
01:34:45,609 --> 01:34:42,409
other people as as well

2231
01:34:47,260 --> 01:34:45,619
finally he must have gotten really over

2232
01:34:49,859 --> 01:34:47,270
the edge one night and he leaves a phone

2233
01:34:53,859 --> 01:34:49,869
number and I called the phone number and

2234
01:34:55,899 --> 01:34:53,869
it's his parents elderly parents retired

2235
01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:55,909
down in Florida Wow

2236
01:35:00,040 --> 01:34:58,159
and I said I and I said you know I don't

2237
01:35:02,530 --> 01:35:00,050
know what is wrong with your son he

2238
01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:02,540
obviously needs some sort of it got some

2239
01:35:06,370 --> 01:35:04,369
mental health issues and he needs some

2240
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:06,380
you know care is there anything you

2241
01:35:13,060 --> 01:35:09,770
could do before he harms a you know some

2242
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:13,070
innocent you know UFO book him well

2243
01:35:16,750 --> 01:35:15,290
Timothy and Claudia what a great show

2244
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:16,760
tonight thank you for your experiences

2245
01:35:21,220 --> 01:35:18,170
and thank you too for all your great

2246
01:35:23,109 --> 01:35:21,230
books right and anybody who wants a free

2247
01:35:26,379 --> 01:35:23,119
subscription to our publication just go

2248
01:35:27,939 --> 01:35:26,389
to conspiracy journal comm and this fill

2249
01:35:29,379 --> 01:35:27,949
in the blank there and we'll send you

2250
01:35:31,300 --> 01:35:29,389
all kinds of stuff through the mail on

2251
01:35:32,859 --> 01:35:31,310
the line and you'll enjoy it all and we

2252
01:35:34,930 --> 01:35:32,869
probably have the link on the front page

2253
01:35:36,939 --> 01:35:34,940
as well with me real it might be as well

2254
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:36,949
people come to the grounds for a media

2255
01:35:41,740 --> 01:35:39,050
page be able to see that link please

2256
01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:41,750
sign up for conspiracy journal you know

2257
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:43,760
Tim's got some great work he's done 30

2258
01:35:48,700 --> 01:35:47,449
or so books in his history Claudia thank

2259
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:48,710
you so much for being with us tonight

2260
01:35:52,510 --> 01:35:50,210
and spending the whole time with us we

2261
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:52,520
appreciate I'd love to bring you back on

2262
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:54,050
again if we can talk about other things

2263
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:55,890
besides mi B's

2264
01:36:00,350 --> 01:35:58,560
I'm sure absolutely absolutely yeah you

2265
01:36:01,910 --> 01:36:00,360
keep going there right I will thank you

2266
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:01,920
so much what a great show thank you so

2267
01:36:05,570 --> 01:36:03,450
much for being on good night everybody

2268
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:05,580
good night good night everybody from

2269
01:36:09,530 --> 01:36:07,170
Ground Zero we're very happy that we had

2270
01:36:11,540 --> 01:36:09,540
this show tonight and look if you have

2271
01:36:12,830 --> 01:36:11,550
experiences or or if you have something

2272
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:12,840
that's going on in your life that you

2273
01:36:16,220 --> 01:36:14,910
just can't explain if you feel that

2274
01:36:17,900 --> 01:36:16,230
perhaps you need to share it with

2275
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:17,910
somebody Ground Zero

2276
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:22,080
PDX at yahoo.com or call the show if

2277
01:36:25,940 --> 01:36:23,910
it's a topic that you can relate to that

2278
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:25,950
you can actually tell us about your

2279
01:36:31,700 --> 01:36:28,890
experiences we won't learn unless we

2280
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:31,710
hear we're here for you please be in